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DaewooOfDeath
DaewooOfDeath Dork
3/26/12 10:06 p.m.

This is a car I'd like to check out for my mother. She's okay'd it on all the basic stuff, so now I need to check them for reliability and parts.

Zomby woof
Zomby woof UltraDork
3/26/12 10:30 p.m.

I live amongst the Suzuki people, and I have never heard a bad word about them. I know a very competent dealer tech that tells me that the J20 motor in the SX4 is the most kickass of all the J motors, a kind of big block version of the Swift GT motor.

If that thing were only a 2 door, it would be HUGE.

FlightService
FlightService SuperDork
3/26/12 10:37 p.m.

Their head quarters is very near my parents company's outside of Osaka. They like them there.

Other than that all I got is some were rebadged Daewoos, which were crap. The Jap Suzuki's I know were very good.

nepa03focus
nepa03focus New Reader
3/26/12 10:39 p.m.

my mom has an 08 auto awd it has about 60k on it and they havent done anything other than brakes/ filters/ routine maintenance. it isnt too bad to drive i dont mind it and the mpg are pretty decent. i know the warranty is good if you are thinking new i also know the newer ones switched to cvt at some point. her prior vehicle was a grand vitara that thing was crap to drive but was also dead nuts reliable for 100k +

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy SuperDork
3/26/12 11:00 p.m.

Can anybody buy a new Suzuki? I haven't seen one on the dealers lot here since shortly after the Japanese tsunami. I presume they got hit hard...

DaewooOfDeath
DaewooOfDeath Dork
3/26/12 11:07 p.m.

They are cheap enough that I'm probably going to recommend a new car with the big warranty.

Is the SX4 a Daewoo in disguise? I know the Verona was, so was the Reno.

ditchdigger
ditchdigger Dork
3/26/12 11:34 p.m.

The SX4 was a joint venture between Suzuki and Fiat.

I dig them quite a lot. I see a neat little european hatchback that just happens to be available with AWD and a 5spd.

I hear that they are pretty miserable to drive but nothing specific as to what is wrong with them. Isn't the SX4 the reasonably priced car on TGUS?

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/26/12 11:48 p.m.

I find them interesting due to the fiat connection. I keep wanting one to convert to look like the sedici

Zomby woof
Zomby woof UltraDork
3/27/12 6:56 a.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote: Can anybody buy a new Suzuki? I haven't seen one on the dealers lot here since shortly after the Japanese tsunami. I presume they got hit hard...

Our dealer has lot's of cars on his lot. Probably because nobody buys them.

I don't think Fiat had anything to do with the design of the SX4.

NGTD
NGTD Dork
3/27/12 8:32 a.m.

A guy at work has one and really likes it . . . . . . .

then again his other vehicle is a Suzuki X90!

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/27/12 8:42 a.m.
Zomby woof wrote:
Streetwiseguy wrote: Can anybody buy a new Suzuki? I haven't seen one on the dealers lot here since shortly after the Japanese tsunami. I presume they got hit hard...
Our dealer has lot's of cars on his lot. Probably because nobody buys them. I don't think Fiat had anything to do with the design of the SX4.

fiat helped with the diesel version in europe... they have their own version with different lights, bumpers, wheels, and interior/exterior trim

Bobzilla
Bobzilla SuperDork
3/27/12 8:47 a.m.

THE SX4's are all suzuki, No Daewooki involvement there. THat J-engine has been around a while and is very dependable.

I like them. In fact, if the SX4 Sport got a little better fuel economy it would be at the top of my replacemtnt list for the Elantra.

Vigo
Vigo SuperDork
3/27/12 8:56 a.m.
I don't think Fiat had anything to do with the design of the SX4.

What makes you say that? Are you drawing a distinction between the concepts of developed and designed?

Raze
Raze SuperDork
3/27/12 8:56 a.m.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Sedici

Zomby woof
Zomby woof UltraDork
3/27/12 9:00 a.m.

I've seen that before, but I don't think Fiat had anymore to do with it other than rebadging it as a Fiat.

bastomatic
bastomatic Dork
3/27/12 9:10 a.m.

As Raze points out in Wikipedia, it's said that the SX4 was a joint venture between Fiat and Suzuki, and the design itself comes from Italdesign.

And did you know there are lift kits available? And rock sliders? And a skidplate?

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/27/12 9:40 a.m.

Thread jack: What are opinions on the Aerio?

Zomby woof
Zomby woof UltraDork
3/27/12 9:47 a.m.

Motor problems.

Similar J series motor, but not nearly as well built. They have bottom end problems that my tuner buddy claims is 100% the fault of a brutal factory computer tune.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/27/12 9:52 a.m.
Zomby woof wrote: I've seen that before, but I don't think Fiat had anymore to do with it other than rebadging it as a Fiat.

And they supplied the Diesels.. the Diesels all use Fiat's "multijet" engine

FlightService
FlightService SuperDork
3/27/12 10:55 a.m.
bastomatic wrote: As Raze points out in Wikipedia, it's said that the SX4 was a joint venture between Fiat and Suzuki, and the design itself comes from Italdesign. And did you know there are lift kits available? And rock sliders? And a skidplate?

are those S10/blazer wheels?

failboat
failboat Dork
3/27/12 11:05 a.m.

jeep wheels, they bolt right on from what i understand but the offset is different. they look awesome though.

bastomatic
bastomatic Dork
3/27/12 11:22 a.m.

Ok, so now I'm looking at these too. Were they available AWD with a manual transmission?

EricM
EricM SuperDork
3/27/12 11:25 a.m.

there is a turbo kit for it also, if I remember correctly.

failboat
failboat Dork
3/27/12 11:29 a.m.
bastomatic wrote: Ok, so now I'm looking at these too. Were they available AWD with a manual transmission?

yes

driver109x
driver109x HalfDork
3/27/12 2:34 p.m.
bastomatic wrote: As Raze points out in Wikipedia, it's said that the SX4 was a joint venture between Fiat and Suzuki, and the design itself comes from Italdesign. And did you know there are lift kits available? And rock sliders? And a skidplate?

I will always say this... needs big mudflaps and lotsa lights

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