Alfaromeoguy
Alfaromeoguy Reader
1/4/19 4:48 p.m.

My 2000 avalon  on bank 1 short turm is 5.5 long turm is -3.9,  on bank two short turm is 3.3. Long turm is 3.5​​..any ide​​s, trying to smog.and my 2 year old car won't light up, she's cold

..t..thanks for any help

 

80sFast
80sFast Reader
1/4/19 4:52 p.m.

Could you please not say “learn me”. It makes the whole forum look stupid. 

Alfaromeoguy
Alfaromeoguy Reader
1/4/19 4:52 p.m.

What happened to my smiley face on the title?

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/4/19 4:56 p.m.

I'm ok with the thread title, but it took me a while to figure out that "turm" meant "term". 

OP, I have no idea how to help solve your problem though. More info? are those fuel trims or 02 sensor readings or what? are you in closed loop or are you saying you never reach closed loop?

daeman
daeman Dork
1/4/19 5:06 p.m.

In reply to Alfaromeoguy :

If you used the emoji's on your phone keypad, they don't work, you need to use the ones that appear at the top of the comment box where you're typing your response (little smiley face, located top right) wink

Stefan
Stefan GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/4/19 5:39 p.m.
80sFast said:

Could you please not say “learn me”. It makes the whole forum look stupid. 

No, it just means they are in on the joke.

Psst, its used as a joke term here, because we are actually often a bit more bright, but we're all supposed to be here for FUN and Frivolity.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
1/4/19 5:42 p.m.

In reply to Stefan :

I think you missed something!

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
1/4/19 5:55 p.m.

Single digits on fuel trims, either positive or negative, are perfectly normal.  Over 10 is a bit high, codes set around 20%.

Alfaromeoguy
Alfaromeoguy Reader
1/4/19 6:05 p.m.
80sFast said:

Could you please not say “learn me”. It makes the whole forum look stupid. 

Funny..i thought I would mess with you folks 

Alfaromeoguy
Alfaromeoguy Reader
1/4/19 6:05 p.m.

In reply to Robbie :

Fuel trims

iceracer
iceracer UltimaDork
1/4/19 6:21 p.m.

Learn me about fuel trims. wink

GTXVette
GTXVette SuperDork
1/4/19 6:22 p.m.

Just give us a smidge of an Idea in what you need us to Learn ya in the Titile.

  Learn me 2000 avalon Fuel Trim.

Alfaromeoguy
Alfaromeoguy Reader
1/4/19 8:08 p.m.

Bank 2 is 3.3 st and 3.5 lt, but bank 2 is 5..3 st and - 3.9 lt

 

Why the difference?

Stefan
Stefan GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/4/19 9:12 p.m.

How are the plugs/wires (or coil packs)?

How are the injectors?  Their seals?

80sFast
80sFast Reader
1/4/19 9:59 p.m.
Stefan said:
80sFast said:

Could you please not say “learn me”. It makes the whole forum look stupid. 

No, it just means they are in on the joke.

Psst, its used as a joke term here, because we are actually often a bit more bright, but we're all supposed to be here for FUN and Frivolity.

No no, I get it. 

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/whats-with-learn-me/146191/page1/

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
1/5/19 7:28 a.m.
Alfaromeoguy said:

Bank 2 is 3.3 st and 3.5 lt, but bank 2 is 5..3 st and - 3.9 lt

 

Why the difference?

Total trim is 1.4 on that bank, under the current conditions.  If those numbers were taken at idle, you need to watch them under different combinations.  Likely the short term will trend closer to the long term value at higher load.  That means you might have an injector that over fuels a wee bit at low speed, but the extra fuel becomes less significant under load.  Or, you have one O 2 sensor slightly out of calibration or one of a thousand other things.  If the car runs well, forget about it . The computer is using its fuel trim capability to compensate, just like it is supposed to.  Unless you are also counting misfires, don't worry about it.

 

Alfaromeoguy
Alfaromeoguy Reader
1/5/19 11:10 a.m.

Thanks, I  taking readings on a warm motor at 65 mph.

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