Corevette
350Z. I really, really wanted to like it but I have hated every one I have driven.
Challenger, 5th gen Camaro. Meh.
CRX. I had a twin-cam ZC CRX and I couldn't stand it. This was one of my real-world dream cars when I was in high school. But I was terribly disappointed. I liked each of my real Civics more than the CRX.
Javelin wrote: I think this might of been a case of never meet your heroes
I think there's a lot to that. I've owned other cars but my enthusiast brand is definitely BMW. The first car I've ever had in my name was an e34 535 stick. I lurked on the forums for a long time, reading dreamy stories about the glory of the BMW driving feel, not needing the stereo because the engine is all the music you could ever want... I was so sold. Then I got one, and after getting over the initial giddiness, I was so disappointed. I was in denial for a long time but there was no escaping it that my mom's Neon felt 10x sportier, was pretty much as fast and even the engine sounded better - the M30 sounds like an old sewing machine or dilapidated tractor to me. Since then I learned to take starry-eyed enthusiast opinions on a logarithmic scale.
The biggest driving dissapointment I have had was a Mercedes 190E 2.3 16V. My 325is was a better car in pretty much every way.
The styling on all mercedes with the big chrome tombstone grill is terrible.
Volvo 240's are some of the ugliest things ever, plus they have the benefit of being totally uninspiring to drive.
viper, Ferrari (newer ones), the big Beemers (7 series and such), and mustangs. All for various reasons. I admit they all have their highlights, and I dont in any way knock others for liking or owning them. They are just not for me.
Mercedes SLK AMG. Drove one at the last Mitty. It was one of the fastest cars I've driven, but I just felt completely isolated from the driving experience. And it didn't feel nimble or lightfooted like a two seat sports car did. Oddly enough, the C-class AMG they had there had very similar underpinnings, but I loved that one. I think it was the lighter weight and the fact that you have different expectations for a luxury sedan vs a two seat roadster.
Another one - My wife used to have a 2005 Accord. With a four cylinder and an automatic, it wasn't supposed to be a very fun car to drive, but it was supposed to do well as an inoffensive transportation appliance, right? Well, this Accord managed to be highly offensive, or maybe it just hated me for some reason as its behavior didn't bother my wife when she was driving it. The brakes would grab like crazy if you looked at the pedal funny, and further application of the pedal didn't seem to do much of anything. The transmission's shift points appeared to be completely arbitrary and it would hunt back and forth so often that I usually managed to drive much more smoothly with a stick shift. I just hated that car.
Any BMW other than early 3 series (E30 and older I like). Most supercars, because what am I gonna do with them? Polish and look at them? screw that. I wanna mess with them, and I don't think I can find an F430 in a junk yard.
As for cars I have driven, I was really let down HARD by the EVO X GSR. Yeah it's fast and handles by bending the very laws of physics, but I just didn't want to keep driving it. The RX8 R3 made me sad the test drive was over, despite the massive lack of power in comparison (drove both on the same day, same roads from the same dealership) ... I'm still sad when I have to park it...
In reply to Ma$$hole- I know what you mean, but I'd put the mustang in the other thread. I drove a 2001 Bullitt quite a few times, and despite the terrible handling, cheap interior, a steering wheel that points at the driver's door (not the driver), noisy transmission, wonky clutch feel, and overall shoddyness of the entire vehicle's design and build quality, I absolutely loved it. That sound is intoxicating, and how the deuce did Ford make the brakes feel like that? The steering feels terrible, but the brakes feel awesome.
Tri-five Chevy's, first generation Camaros (and the Pontiac flavor of the same), every Cadillac ever made, Jeeps (CJ-8 and J10/20 etc excepted), probably some other 'All America' iron I can't think of off hand.
I have to admit I've seen a few cars in this list that puzzled me. The SRT-4 Neon, we were supposed to like that thing? I was pretty sure Mopar put that out there like a modern day Road Runner with the Hemi; cheap box, good HP numbers, no real handling.
S197 GT500s. As a Mustang guy, these should be my holy grail. Nuh-uh. Do NOT want.
That new turbo AWD stick-shift Buick. Should incite lust, does nothing for me.
Anything with a Lincoln badge. I'm a Ford guy, so I'm supposed to aspire to a Lincoln, right?
Anything over about $50k. Just can't get excited about any of it.
New Subarus. Seems like every refresh since '05 has just made them more bland.
Maroon92 wrote: I'm with the OP on this one. I hate anything that starts with 911 and doesn't end with TURBO or RS.
what if it ends in TSi?
BigD wrote:Javelin wrote: I think this might of been a case of never meet your heroesI think there's a lot to that. I've owned other cars but my enthusiast brand is definitely BMW. The first car I've ever had in my name was an e34 535 stick. I lurked on the forums for a long time, reading dreamy stories about the glory of the BMW driving feel, not needing the stereo because the engine is all the music you could ever want... I was so sold. Then I got one, and after getting over the initial giddiness, I was so disappointed. I was in denial for a long time but there was no escaping it that my mom's Neon felt 10x sportier, was pretty much as fast and even the engine sounded better - the M30 sounds like an old sewing machine or dilapidated tractor to me. Since then I learned to take starry-eyed enthusiast opinions on a logarithmic scale.
Drive a Fiat, I never thought you could actually 'enjoy' the sound of an engine as though it were music, something about that silly little motor...
Here's a bombshell: RWD cars.
I would say Miatas, in the sense that i like them, but i dont think i could be really engaged by one unless i only used it on the track AND it had more power and made me feel safer than it does, or i used it on the street AND it was a later NC that i cant afford.
A rotary NA theoretically pushes my buttons to a much greater extent.
i was hoping for a new dodge challenger ever since the 2006 mustang showed up. the challenger "concept" made me have a "crisis". but the overpriced ,soft sprung, fat pig that we got really disapointed me. i really want is a hardcore stripped down Trans Am inspired speed machine. leave the the "options" on the shelf. and don't charge me more the 30 grand for it
Raze wrote: Drive a Fiat, I never thought you could actually 'enjoy' the sound of an engine as though it were music, something about that silly little motor...
I believe you, there are plenty of engines whose note I adore. My E34 M5 was actually one of them. But that M30 sounds absolutely horrid without a rice exhaust loud enough to drown out the mad clatter it makes.
This being by far my favorite. Turn it up to 11 and prepare to bust a nut at 0:26
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMPDCNyQxE
new GTR
350z / 370z
new M5, M6
any new Ferrari (no clutch pedal)
any post Countach Lambo
Lexus LFA
SLK
Z4
Any new Acura (so ugly)
Rolls Phantom
For me encroaching technology ruins the driving experience of most modern cars. I drove the M5 and M6 with 500hp and couldn't believe I could HATE a car with that much power. I sure did though. Blame it on the evil computers!
I've driven most of these that I am talking about here.
Almost anything FWD (Exceptions are SAAB, SRT-4, and anything that is used as an appliance only)
Lexus anything, even the ISF and LFA
Mercedes Benz past 1995ish, except for the G-wagen
Dodge Challenger
Infiniti G35, I loved it until I drove it--even funnier because I loved the 350 that I drove
Fully prepped CSP Miata--I've found that you can make an NA/NB Miata faster, but it doesn't take much until you hit the fun limit. I've never driven one with forced induction though.
NC Miata. Just didn't feel right.
Any iDrive equipped BMW. I was 17 when I played with it. I should have been able to figure it out.
GTR. Meh.
I can't add too much to that list, but my biggest car disappointment was a classic Mustang. 1969 Mach 1, 351, 4 speed, 4:11 gears, NO options like power steering or brakes. Sounds like fun, right? Nope, a total pig to drive. Sure, it could smoke the tires with very little encouragement, but better not try to turn or stop. That 351 and those gears got you 3100 rpm at 55, and 8 mpg. Made stupid money selling it , though.
Anything with a pushrod V8.
I know, they are a cheap way to get big HP, but they just bore me to tears and I've never owned one and never will.
moTthediesel wrote: Anything with a pushrod V8. I know, they are a cheap way to get big HP, but they just bore me to tears and I've never owned one and never will.
I understand where you're coming from. It's weird to have a "performance car" that when I'm running at 10/10ths, I shift at 4500rpm.
I need something that can turn 9k to balance me out, lol.
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