Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
11/16/23 4:54 p.m.
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We’re off once again to do some track testing at our official test track, the Florida International Rally and Motorsports Park in Keystone Heights.

This time, we’re going to be running our 1965 Ford Mustang vintage race car as well as our 2017 VW Golf GTI.

Follow this thread for live updates from our test day, and feel free to …

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Noddaz
Noddaz GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/16/23 4:55 p.m.

Interesting.

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
11/16/23 5:17 p.m.

So now that the Mustang is on track what's the total dollar amount?

As this was a budget build (budget by vintage big bore car standards) I am really curious...............granted I will probably faint but I still want to know.

RacingComputers
RacingComputers GRM+ Memberand Reader
11/16/23 6:51 p.m.

Love the look

 

Trying to find similar 20" Wheels for the 05 Mustang currently being cronicld in the build Thread

 

Great Job

NermalSnert (Forum Supporter)
NermalSnert (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
11/16/23 6:57 p.m.

Yep. Y'all nailed the look. Love the white letter Hoosiers with those wheels.

ChrisTropea
ChrisTropea Associate Editor
11/17/23 9:07 a.m.

We have arrived! 

ChrisTropea
ChrisTropea Associate Editor
11/17/23 9:08 a.m.

Time to get the Mustang unloaded and ready for the track. 

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
11/17/23 9:12 a.m.

In reply to ChrisTropea :

Man that looks good. Can't wait to hear it running.

ChrisTropea
ChrisTropea Associate Editor
11/17/23 9:40 a.m.

Pre track inspection time, 

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/17/23 10:04 a.m.

Wish I was there.
 

There's also a CFR-SCCA autocross and track sprint there tomorrow for me to miss. 
 

I'll be getting some continuing education hours this weekend. 

ChrisTropea
ChrisTropea Associate Editor
11/17/23 10:32 a.m.

First few laps out on track and Tim says car is feeling good at test pace. 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
11/17/23 11:17 a.m.

I just got back in from my first laps in the car. And, well, it's not great. The front brakes don't seem to be working at all, which makes it sketchy at best. We're investigating now. 

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
11/17/23 11:18 a.m.

Were reached the "looking up things about the old car using the new phone" phase. 

CAinCA
CAinCA GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/17/23 12:49 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

I just got back in from my first laps in the car. And, well, it's not great. The front brakes don't seem to be working at all, which makes it sketchy at best. We're investigating now. 

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Uggg, not good. Hopefully you'll get it figured out today.

ChrisTropea
ChrisTropea Associate Editor
11/17/23 12:54 p.m.

Okay we have determined that we need to bleed the brakes. 

ChrisTropea
ChrisTropea Associate Editor
11/17/23 1:35 p.m.

Brakes are bled and Tom is back out on track. 

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/17/23 1:43 p.m.

In reply to ChrisTropea :

It looks great. 

BA5
BA5 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/17/23 3:04 p.m.

So did bleeding the brakes work?

ChrisTropea
ChrisTropea Associate Editor
11/17/23 4:10 p.m.

Bleeding the brakes helped but still didn't completely solve the issue so we will have to diagnose back at the shop. 
We ended the day after we had some mechanical issues so we have the car loaded back in the trailer and headed home. 
Good news is the car looked and sounded good on track. 
 

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/17/23 4:28 p.m.

This is why you test. Car looked good, sounded good, and is going home in one piece.

Andy Hollis
Andy Hollis
11/17/23 4:30 p.m.

What about the GTI?

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
11/17/23 4:42 p.m.

I had one goal with the GTI: Do 5 back to back flying laps with the Catalyst running to collect data on the new intercooler. To do this, I needed a dry track, which meant I didn't go out until the end of the day. I've been to the FIRM before with this setup, but kept having Garmin glitches and errors over bumps. I 3D-printed a little clip to fix it:

And, as always, the GTI is undefeated. It clicked off six back to back hot laps with zero loss of pace. It's about 8 seconds/lap faster than the unsorted Mustang cruising around at half pace. Success!

RacingComputers
RacingComputers GRM+ Memberand Reader
11/17/23 5:31 p.m.

From years of Being a Test engineer, you learn more at the track testing than you ever can learn on a Chassis or Engine Dyno.

 

Congratulation for bringing both cars home in one piece.

 

You and return for another day.

 

 

 

 

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 UltraDork
11/17/23 5:51 p.m.

I was going to bet on the GTI- I don't really *want* it to "win", per se, but they are such competent cars, it would be hard to beat them in anything built in the 20th century. And then drive to work getting 35 mpg.  
 

The wife likes the new M2, chubby as it is, but I'm hard pressed to buy her one of those when for 25k less, the GTI just gets it all done. It hurts my heart to put that in print. 

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