LS1 S2K OMG YES

Rusnak_322 wrote: I can't see what this gets you over a $21k Vette other then a boat load of headaches. S2k = 2800 C5 vert = 3200 lbs??? S2k LS1 = 2950 lbs

This.

Of course... don't ask me why a LS1 Miata makes sense and a LS1 S2K doesn't...

Regardless, a LS1 S2000 couldn't be registered in my area (no OBD II = FAIL), so it would be strictly a track toy. The comment about reengineering the steering four times concerns me too... I've always understood the factory steering feel is one of the best things about a S2000.

Would be fun to spin around the block, but $21K is stupid money just for LS1 S2K bragging rights.

I think that the LS1 Miata is more of a plug and play. Certainly there are kits that make it a lot easier. The Miata is also a lot cheaper to start with, $21k should get you a fully sorted monster Miata with brake, wheels and suspension upgrades to match the motor

dculberson wrote:

Josh wrote: TBH I don't think I'd take this over a stock one. Certainly not at about twice what that car would be worth stock. If you just HAVE to make silly power, F20/22s love boost.

The only $10k S2000s I've seen have had a lot more miles and often times a salvage title. They've held their value way too well.

At $10,500 I would walk away from that car if it had an F20 in it. Poor front end panel fits/non-original front bumper indicates a possible accident history, interior is not great, crappy looking aftermarket alloys in place of the stock wheels, and we don't even know what the top looks like ($2k-ish to have professionally replaced if necessary). You're right that you can't get a perfect S2k for $10k, but this clearly isn't one.

Rusnak_322 wrote: I think that the LS1 Miata is more of a plug and play. Certainly there are kits that make it a lot easier. The Miata is also a lot cheaper to start with, $21k should get you a fully sorted monster Miata with brake, wheels and suspension upgrades to match the motor

Have you looked at what the swap kits cost? I think you're closer to $30k for a cheap build by the time you everything you're talking about.

@Josh: Good point.

Idunno, not prefect, but looks nice to me...

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/3173193506.html

bravenrace wrote: Idunno, not prefect, but looks nice to me... http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/3173193506.html

Salvage title, just like I said most $10k S2000s have.

dculberson wrote:

Rusnak_322 wrote: I think that the LS1 Miata is more of a plug and play. Certainly there are kits that make it a lot easier. The Miata is also a lot cheaper to start with, $21k should get you a fully sorted monster Miata with brake, wheels and suspension upgrades to match the motor

Have you looked at what the swap kits cost? I think you're closer to $30k for a cheap build by the time you everything you're talking about. @Josh: Good point.

There have been V8 Miatas in the GRM challenge, so it can be done for under $30k.

You pay for the privlage of assembling it yourself, but you will almost never get that money back. A quick google found this - 94 LS1 Miata - $12,500

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=12708.0

Rusnak_322 wrote:

dculberson wrote:

Rusnak_322 wrote: I think that the LS1 Miata is more of a plug and play. Certainly there are kits that make it a lot easier. The Miata is also a lot cheaper to start with, $21k should get you a fully sorted monster Miata with brake, wheels and suspension upgrades to match the motor

Have you looked at what the swap kits cost? I think you're closer to $30k for a cheap build by the time you everything you're talking about. @Josh: Good point.

There have been V8 Miatas in the GRM challenge, so it can be done for under $30k. You pay for the privlage of assembling it yourself, but you will almost never get that money back. A quick google found this - 94 LS1 Miata - $12,500 http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=12708.0

Yes, but he was talking 'plug and play' using kits and an LS1. Price out a Flyin' Miata kit and that $12,500 seems like a steal and a half if it's well done.

I meant more plug and play as in you don't have to reinvent the wheel to make it fit. You don't have to engineer a workaround for the steering and there are tons of people who can help you or sell you kits.

monstermiata.com has a $4k kit bossfrog has lots of parts

Bobzilla wrote:

bravenrace wrote: There are plenty of power adders to get that kind of HP out of the S2000's engine, and I personally would greatly prefer that to another blah LS swap.

And I always thought Honda berkeleyed up with the S2k and that it should have been a 3.5V6/6-spd in there. So this is definately somethign I would prefer. Then again, other than the rarity of the G13B in the swift, I don't like screaming 4 cyl engines unless they're strapped to 2 wheels. I like my cars to have a nice fat midrange and good torque down where I use it every day. So a car like that would definately satisfy my needs. Obviously it doesn't for you. It's great both ways.

I have driven one.. I think the screaming 4 cylinder suits them just fine

Engine swaps are like crack whore supermodel girlfriends...so much up front appeal, but so much bad to be dealt with. Most perpetrators are glad to see them go away

I liked the Willy's in the background better.
But I'll depart with the consensus and say, yes, yes, that would be a sweet S2k. Don't know if it's worth $20k to me, but it would be a fun joy ride, right to the scene of my death.

This little snippet cracked me up

I have always felt that the S2000 was a little tail happy before, and this feels more controllable than OEM (to me).

2002maniac wrote: This little snippet cracked me up

I have always felt that the S2000 was a little tail happy before, and this feels more controllable than OEM (to me).

Must be the gyroscopic effect of having the rear tires spinning 2x as fast as the front tires at all times.

This particular one is hacked up (most prominently, solid-mounted engine = insane NVH, and the steering sounds questionable - not good enough for a road course huh?), needs work, costs a lot and probably weighs almost as much as a C5 at this point.