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tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
10/17/22 4:19 p.m.

Prayed for three friends and checked on two today. I don't know what in the world happened to this thread, but apparently I need to do better at checking on my GRM friends. Some of them are -not- OK.

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) UberDork
10/17/22 8:59 p.m.
Junkers said:
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:
Junkers said:

I'll just put one simple question out there.  Drop all of your emotions and resentments and answer it honestly and plainly.

Why do humans need love?

They don't need it. It helps make life a lot better though.  They want it.  
 

 

Not so.  Humans DO need love.  Think more about it and then try to answer the question of why we need love.

Not a need.  Oxygen, water, food and shelter those are needs.  There are plenty of hermits too.  Humans thrive with love, but it's not a need.  You could argue there is less love in the world today and we see the effect on society.  It's still not a need.  

Tom1200
Tom1200 UberDork
10/17/22 10:09 p.m.

In reply to AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) :

People in long term loving relationships live longer........I'd call it a need.

Junkers
Junkers New Reader
10/18/22 3:02 p.m.

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Tom1200
Tom1200 UberDork
10/18/22 3:28 p.m.

In reply to Junkers :

I think you have the wrong forum: Grass Roots Mental-health is the next room over.

I suggest you venture over there; it's full of amateur psychologists and philosophers such as yourself.

Should you wish to contribute in a meaningful way to David's fine post I'm sure you'd be welcome here...........if not I'm sure Majorie the great slayer of trolls will be along shortly.

PS My wife is still a friggin saint..............she made a  pot roast for dinner while I tinkered with my race car........Slan, Amadan.

Russian Warship, Go Berkeley Yourself
Russian Warship, Go Berkeley Yourself PowerDork
10/18/22 3:29 p.m.

Vajingo, is that you??

 

Junkers
Junkers New Reader
10/18/22 3:38 p.m.

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Junkers
Junkers New Reader
10/18/22 3:48 p.m.

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Junkers
Junkers New Reader
10/18/22 3:49 p.m.
Tom1200 said:

In reply to AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) :

People in long term loving relationships live longer........I'd call it a need.

I agree with you, Tom.  Now can we be friends?

Tom1200
Tom1200 UberDork
10/18/22 3:51 p.m.
Junkers said:
Tom1200 said:

In reply to AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) :

People in long term loving relationships live longer........I'd call it a need.

I agree with you, Tom.  Now can we be friends?

Sure, I have lots of friends who can't seem to stay on topic.

Lof8 - Andy
Lof8 - Andy GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/18/22 3:56 p.m.

I jumped into the last page of this thread, and...

...its very strange in here.

Junkers
Junkers New Reader
10/18/22 4:08 p.m.
Tom1200 said:
Junkers said:
Tom1200 said:

In reply to AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) :

People in long term loving relationships live longer........I'd call it a need.

I agree with you, Tom.  Now can we be friends?

Sure, I have lots of friends who can't seem to stay on topic.

Nice!

Driven5
Driven5 UberDork
10/18/22 6:29 p.m.

In reply to Junkers :

And there in lies the problem with the hidden-post downvote system... When someone experiences enough of it, they tend to see it through a self-victimizing lens of persecution, rather than the subtle guiding 'corrective loving' suggestion that perhaps some additional self-reflection and introspection may be prudent... As it was actually intended to be. 

If it really pains your EGO that much for your judgmental beliefs (which are just being used to try hiding that which is broken inside) to not be the center of discussion, please just start your own thread in the off-topic section where it can all be delved into more deeply and appropriately.

dculberson
dculberson MegaDork
10/18/22 7:12 p.m.

In reply to AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) :

I'll defer to Maslow on that one. 
 

is it as core as food? No. Is it a need? Yes. But maybe you're not ready to handle the truth. (Yes that's a joke.)

Tom1200
Tom1200 UberDork
10/18/22 7:24 p.m.

In reply to dculberson :

belonging and loving takes precedence.............why?

My wife makes sure I don't do anything really stupid.....safety

She makes sure I eat right; without her I'd live on a steady diet of hot dogs and pork rinds.......physiology.

dculberson
dculberson MegaDork
10/18/22 7:55 p.m.

Maybe I wasn't clear on that one. That is maslows hierarchy of needs. Love is third only behind addressing our physiological and safety needs which makes it very much a need.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
10/18/22 7:58 p.m.
Spitsix said:

Wow - three heavy hitters

Kas Kastner, Kirk F. White and Mike Cook!

 

I know! All were also always kind and generous with their time.

I know that we often don't enjoy talking about death, but at the same time, we should remember those who did good. 

May their memory be a blessing. 

03Panther
03Panther PowerDork
10/18/22 8:53 p.m.
Tom1200 said:

Should you wish to contribute in a meaningful way to David's fine post I'm sure you'd be welcome here...

Not one word uttered by him so far has been relevant. I doubt he has enough courtesy for all us unenlightened unwashed masses to be considerate this point.

Remember, he doesn't have to, since it's just that we are not capable of understanding. 

03Panther
03Panther PowerDork
10/18/22 9:06 p.m.

In reply to Driven5 :

In this case, the down votes seem to be putting across exactly what it appears. Seems like no one here thinks his bairly intelligible drivel is related to the original post. 
It's just not a conspiracy, like he has to tell himself. 
As a disclaimer, I only check back from time to time to see the positive things of the O. P. I have not touched down vote (haven't needed to) and have no clue who has. 
He has been asked to start his own thread, but apparently does not have enough consideration to do so. 

Tom1200
Tom1200 UberDork
10/18/22 9:10 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

A friend of mine is a long time GT-6 racer and befriended Kas Kastner he has nothing but glowing words about him.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
10/18/22 9:15 p.m.

In reply to Tom1200 :

Kas would always–always–reply with the kindest e-mails. Ditto Mike Cook.

We just had a death in the family. It does cause you to pause.  

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
10/18/22 9:18 p.m.

And sorta related to all of this, I just got a postcard–like an actual, hand-written postcard–from a college friend. She just wanted to say that she was glad that we made it through the hurricane. 

You can't put a price on that. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/6/23 10:28 a.m.

Just an update that a scholarship has been founded in Howie’s honor. 

Info here: Howie Liebengood Memorial Scholarship Endowment.

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