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Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/30/16 11:46 a.m.

This is the part where someone is supposed to ask you to post pictures...

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt PowerDork
11/30/16 11:46 a.m.

For some reason, my manual transmission BMW wouldn't sell on Craigslist, but I posted the exact same add on Autotrader and got a lot more responses.

singleslammer
singleslammer PowerDork
11/30/16 11:47 a.m.
Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/30/16 11:48 a.m.

Which version of the Matrix is the Vibe GT most comparable to?

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
11/30/16 11:49 a.m.

I'd be there for a test drive tonight, if you were further South.

Good luck!

STM317
STM317 HalfDork
11/30/16 11:53 a.m.

If you don't get more interest after adding your phone number, I'd take some fresh pics of the outside. Preferably on a sunny day, or some place well lit. Those pics aren't bad, especially by CL standards, but they are kind of dark and gloomy. Besides, some new pics might get it noticed more.

cmcgregor
cmcgregor HalfDork
11/30/16 11:58 a.m.

In reply to Woody:

The XRS. The only one with the better motor and the 6 speed manual.

RedGT
RedGT HalfDork
11/30/16 12:19 p.m.

Noted on the pics. This was "just done washing all the cars and OH CRAP the sun is setting fast these days."

And yes, it is not so much 'comparable to' as it is 'exactly the same as' a Matrix XRS. Same engine as the Elise. Which, I admit, is a somewhat pointless powerband when it has an instant 20hp bump at cam changeover that hits you like an automatic trans suddenly downshifting...and you have to rev to 6200 rpm to find it. Nobody ever liked autocrossing them for that reason but It'd be entertaining on the street I guess.

If I keep it long enough I'll start trying to fix lift.

The0retical
The0retical Dork
11/30/16 12:21 p.m.

You're 30 mins south of me. Talking to the wife now.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/30/16 12:30 p.m.

There was a guy around here that used to autocross and track a Matrix XRS. He would consistently destroy Miatas and make it look easy.

RedGT
RedGT HalfDork
11/30/16 12:38 p.m.
The0retical wrote: You're 30 mins south of me. Talking to the wife now.

A few points not in the ad (because it just turns into a rambling ad at some point)

  • Lift doesn't engage as I said above.
  • Handbrake is weak. (service brakes are fine)
  • This is one of the cars on the massive Takata airbag recall list for the PS airbag inflator but we're in a low temp/low humidity environment so "parts aren't available" last I checked.
The0retical
The0retical Dork
11/30/16 12:47 p.m.

Sent you a PM. I'll know more tonight.

RedGT
RedGT HalfDork
11/30/16 1:04 p.m.
Woody wrote: There was a guy around here that used to autocross and track a Matrix XRS. He would consistently destroy Miatas and make it look easy.

When I first started autocrossing there was a black, insanely loud, FSP Vibe GT that ran a couple of events. Sure sounded good. Kicked my ass at the time.

In reply to The0retical: Responded

t25torx
t25torx Dork
11/30/16 1:13 p.m.

If it wasn't a GT it would be exactly what I'm looking for. Having to use premium and getting less mpg for 40hp more that you really don't use on the street isn't worth the trade for me.

Good luck, and yeah there are still people looking for manuals. I know I'm one.

Mister Fister
Mister Fister Reader
11/30/16 1:35 p.m.

With something like 3% of the population able to operate a manual transmission vehicle . . . yeah, might have something to do with the lack of interest.

That and the fact that Pontiac is a dead brand. Nobody wants to hitch their wagon to a loser.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
11/30/16 1:53 p.m.

Clearly, youre never going to sell this thing. Its a tough pill to swallow, but at least you have us here to be honest with you.

I will do you a solid, and give you your garage space back, by sacrificing my garage space, and taking it off your hands. Normally, I would charge a fee for this. However, because its the holidays, I wont even charge you for the fuel to get me and my trailer down there. Please be sure the title is signed before I arrive.

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy PowerDork
11/30/16 2:00 p.m.

I hope manuals sell. I'm looking to sell my 2011 Accord LX Sedan 5-speed in 2-3 months.

RedGT
RedGT HalfDork
11/30/16 2:14 p.m.

In reply to 4cylndrfury:

As much as I appreciate your super generous offer, I can dump it on the local "sub-$1000 beater cars for sale" facebook group and it will be gobbled up by the wolves in about an hour based on what I have seen. But if I am going to do that, I am going to drive it a lot more first.

RedGT
RedGT HalfDork
11/30/16 2:20 p.m.
t25torx wrote: Having to use premium and getting less mpg for 40hp more that you really don't use on the street isn't worth the trade for me.

If you don't care about 6200+ rpm, it will run correctly on 87 (being variable timing too) but the MPG suffers almost exactly to match the price difference between fuels. And 89 is halfway between on both counts. So we said the heck with it and indeed used premium. But it was funny how exactly it matched. The car is determined to cost 9 cents a mile in gas come hell or high water.

Raze
Raze UltraDork
11/30/16 2:47 p.m.

Challenge fodder?

Tyler H
Tyler H GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
11/30/16 3:15 p.m.

If I owned this car, it would get premium and a rev-limiter test every day. An 8000+rpm 6MT for $2000 buy-in yields a lot of extra cash to spend on fuel.

RedGT
RedGT HalfDork
11/30/16 3:20 p.m.

More looking around on craigslist - since I am usually shopping hatchbacks only - boy there are some good buys out there for 5-spd, 10-15 year old sedans right now. And this is just the ones in top condition. $1500 '02 Protege. $2000 '06 Mazda3. $2000 Aveo. $1800 02 Civic. $1800 08 Cobalt. Yikes. I see why the average joe wouldn't give a hoot about mine :-/

edizzle89
edizzle89 Dork
11/30/16 3:20 p.m.

if you werent 10 hours away i might be interested

Pattyo
Pattyo New Reader
11/30/16 9:34 p.m.

Another issue is your timing. Everyone is thinking Christmas presents, not spending money on the unknown. If you can stash it until March you should be able to execute your original strategy of ask $2500 take $2000. Good luck.

ae86andkp61
ae86andkp61 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/30/16 9:44 p.m.

As others have said, tough time of year to sell. I had a 1ZZ Matrix XR for a while, and while I enjoyed the fuel mileage and interior space, I often wondered how life would have been different with the 2ZZ-GE.

I'll just leave this here.... OK, OK, this one is in a Corolla, but essentially the same powerplant.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/C8QOSCcCUSk

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