EvanR
EvanR SuperDork
6/10/17 2:22 a.m.

A well-maintained '82 Mercedes 240 was in a wreck. Brainstorming what to do with the engine. Lots of torques, but not a lot of hp. Seems like it should go into something lightweight.

Like a Samurai/Sidekick/Tracker. Google isn't helping, mostly I found a lot of threads just like this one!

Anybody got any ideas on this, or other places an OM616 might work?

(And don't say "Miata". I remember that thread.)

JeffHarbert
JeffHarbert GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
6/10/17 8:06 a.m.

A OM616 belongs in an older 2wd mini truck. Mazda, Toyota, Nissan, take your pick. In fact, now I want build one, damn you.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill UltimaDork
6/10/17 8:11 a.m.

I've been looking at doing something like this for years. My lack of knowledge about diesels hasn't helped move it forward.

You can put a VW diesel in a Sammy, so maybe the Merc is doable.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
6/10/17 8:20 a.m.

you put the om616 in a jeep yj size vehicle not something like the Samurai that is for the 1.9 vw tdi

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/10/17 9:04 a.m.

Yeah you'd have a very hard time fitting such a long engine into a Samurai/Sidekick/Tracker. You'd have to both cut the firewall and rear-mount the radiator.

Ransom
Ransom GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
6/10/17 9:36 a.m.

Okay, I gotta ask. "BOF"?

I tried a quick google and got this thread (already!?) and not much else... I get that you're talking Samurai/Sidekick/Tracker, but where does "BOF" come from?

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/10/17 10:08 a.m.

Body-on-frame.

buzzboy
buzzboy Reader
6/10/17 12:22 p.m.

That engine should be about 500lbs wet, add another 100 or more if it's still got the 722 behind it. That's a lot of weight for a sammy

EvanR
EvanR SuperDork
6/10/17 2:55 p.m.
JeffHarbert wrote: A OM616 belongs in an older 2wd mini truck. Mazda, Toyota, Nissan, take your pick. In fact, now I want build one, damn you.

That sounds like a better idea! Off to CL.

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/10/17 4:08 p.m.

That motor makes like 60 hp right?

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/10/17 4:22 p.m.
thatsnowinnebago wrote: That motor makes like 60 hp right?

Similar to the stock engine which is light as a fart...maybe not such a great idea after all.

yupididit
yupididit Dork
6/10/17 5:54 p.m.

only old om worth swapping is a 617.951 with mods. 616 is dangerously slow in most vehicles. Maybe a cart lol

Wall-e
Wall-e GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/10/17 8:31 p.m.

Someone has to be first. Keep us posted.

buzzboy
buzzboy Reader
6/10/17 8:57 p.m.

In reply to yupididit:

The 950 is good too. Those extra 7cc really make it perform

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UberDork
6/10/17 9:08 p.m.
thatsnowinnebago wrote: That motor makes like 60 hp right?

Might crack the 100ft/lb mark for torque with age and miles on it by now.

The VW 1.9 TDI makes like 105/150

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
6/10/17 9:51 p.m.
ebonyandivory wrote:
thatsnowinnebago wrote: That motor makes like 60 hp right?
Might crack the 100ft/lb mark for torque with age and miles on it by now. The VW 1.9 TDI makes like 105/150

They also actually sell kits to bolt the vw 1.9 in a samurai as well

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UberDork
6/11/17 5:12 a.m.

In reply to MrChaos:

I know, Glenn Wakefield of Rocky Road Outfitters has been selling the kit forever now.

And Xtreme 4X4 did one on their show. (Ian and that very annoying Jesse.)

VW 1.9 Samurai kit

NickD
NickD SuperDork
6/11/17 5:21 a.m.

I once saw a Samurai for sale in my area with an RX-7 Turbo II engine and transmission. In hindsight, I should have gone and at least taken it for a test-drive. I'm sure that would have cured me of wanting that.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UberDork
6/11/17 5:26 a.m.

In reply to NickD:

I'd be so annoyed at having to rev to get power unlike the Diesel. Seems at least for slow rock crawling, that's opposite of what you'd want. I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to Rotaries though.

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/11/17 7:05 a.m.
ebonyandivory wrote: In reply to NickD: I'd be so annoyed at having to rev to get power unlike the Diesel. Seems at least for slow rock crawling, that's opposite of what you'd want. I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to Rotaries though.

That's what gears are for.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UberDork
6/11/17 7:20 a.m.

In reply to wvumtnbkr:

I had the double-low transfer case. I can tell you idling over rocks would be FAR better than 3,000-3,500 rpm.

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