1kris06
1kris06 HalfDork
9/22/17 9:47 a.m.

Over the past few months, my car has been misfiring at idle and under hard/moderate acceleration. It is more pronounced with the air/ac running. 

It throws 2 codes on occasion, random/multiple misfire and cyl#6 misfire. I have already replaced the spark plugs on cyl#2,4,6 (the front bank) and swapped the coils between the same cylinders. 

I buy gas at the same chain of stations, not the same physical location every time. So I don't *think* it's bad gas, although I haven't tried a higher grade to see if that makes a difference.

Next step is to do a compression test this weekend and clean the maf. Baring that fixing or eliminating possibilities,  what's next? I could take it to mazda/ford or my trusted shop for an hour of diag to see what they come up with.

Car has 152k and leaks ~1qt of oil between oil changes. I keep on top of oil changes (3-4k) and topping the oil off.

 

Tl:dr,

Misfire at idle and moderate/heavy accel, more pronounced with the air/ac on. New plugs, swapped coils around with no effect. suggestions? 

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
9/22/17 12:34 p.m.

My wife's 2006 4 cylinder manual had similar symptoms.

 

We unplugged the 02 sensor and the issue went away. Cant remember which 02 sensor it was (the one before or after the cat) Bought a new one and installed it and never had the issue again.

curtis73
curtis73 GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
9/22/17 4:23 p.m.

If its an O2 sensor problem, unplugging the upstream sensor would be the diagnostic thing to do.  The downstream is just a monitor to make sure the cats are working.

Also check the intake boot for rips. They often get dry rot and tear

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/22/17 5:12 p.m.

Curtis beat me to the advice on intake boot between MAF and TB.  Also, the PCV tube back near the firewall sometimes splits but that's a big unmetered air leak so usually manifests as much worse than just a P0300

curtis73
curtis73 GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
9/22/17 7:14 p.m.

Oh, hey... weren't those in the years of the EGR solenoid failures too?

Mazda went through about a decade of poopy solenoids.  The solenoids tend to fail allowing EGR leaks when they shouldn't.  EGR should be metering exhaust gas during cruise only , so if its getting EGR flow during acceleration or idle that could be the issue.

Those solenoids also have a tendency to degrade the plastic over the years.  You'll likely find that the nipple for the vacuum line has turned into something that is about as strong as a Pringles potato chip.  It was a big issue for Mazda in the mid to late 90s.  Possibly as late as 04?

1kris06
1kris06 HalfDork
9/22/17 7:35 p.m.

In reply to curtis73 :

Intake is aftermarket, all the tubing looks good.

Unplugging the o2 sensor exacerbated the rough idle issue.

 

In reply to AngryCorvair :

PCV is the upgraded one from the 06-08 and is less than 2 years old.

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