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pres589
pres589 SuperDork
7/23/13 8:32 a.m.

In reply to Bobzilla:

CostCo would like to have a word with you inre: wages.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
7/23/13 8:33 a.m.

I hate Wal-Mart because i hate dealing with the dregs of society that tend to frequent the location near me.

And they never seem to have what i want actually stocked. So i give up. I just pay the extra couple bucks for my Rotella elsewhere.

pres589
pres589 SuperDork
7/23/13 8:34 a.m.

I go to Wal-Mart for oil now and then but I prefer going to my nearby Farm & Fleet store. The viscosity available are a little heavy for my cars, though, but I usually mix stuff down to what I think is appropriate. For filters I like watching Advance Auto for Purolator deals, I think I got a dozen filters for my motorcycle there for $5 each last time around.

z31maniac
z31maniac PowerDork
7/23/13 8:39 a.m.

^I'm happy to say I literally haven't set foot inside a Wal-Mart in over 2 years.

Bobzilla wrote:
z31maniac wrote:
Bobzilla wrote: I just don't get the wal-mart hate. They have the products I want, at the best price and usually have inventory when no one else does. I can get in and out and take care of 90% of my shopping needs at once. Why is that such a bad thing?
I won't flounder this thread, but go do some research on Wal-Mart's low wages and it's effect on the local population who receive public assistance. We all end up paying for the low prices in other ways.
I worked for WalMart in college. Their wages are no lower than anyone else playing the big-box game. The only hate greater than WM hate on this board is the GM hate..... sad.

As mentioned, Costco would have something to say about that.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UberDork
7/23/13 8:43 a.m.

Costco also charges membership dues.

Plus, walmart is about the only place near me with ammo in stock.

Ranger50
Ranger50 PowerDork
7/23/13 8:50 a.m.
sethmeister4 wrote: If only Target would start a bigger automotive section...

A long time ago they did. Same way with "sporting goods".

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UberDork
7/23/13 8:54 a.m.

I still remember when K-mart was relevant.

Cotton
Cotton SuperDork
7/23/13 9:45 a.m.

The Walmart near us is nice and clean. We go there, Target, Costco, etc. depending on where we are/what we need. I guess I'm just an equal opportunity shopper.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UberDork
7/23/13 9:50 a.m.
Cotton wrote: The Walmart near us is nice and clean. We go there, Target, Costco, etc. depending on where we are/what we need. I guess I'm just an equal opportunity shopper.

We have 3 walmarts equidistant from our house. One is really nasty, one is super nice and the third is rural nice.

FSP_ZX2
FSP_ZX2 Dork
7/23/13 9:51 a.m.
Bobzilla wrote: I still remember when K-mart was relevant.

That is a L O N G time ago. I barely remember those days.

I have a HUGE Wallyworld almost across from my apartment--less than 5 min walk. I go there for almost everything...they are always open, have good if not the lowest prices, its clean, well-stocked 95% of the time and for the most part the folks there are friendly and helpful. I don't get the hate either...

Sky_Render
Sky_Render Dork
7/23/13 10:11 a.m.

I buy Mobil 1 from Wally World, too. It's literally the only thing I purchase there.

Lately, though, the 5W-30 "extended performance" has been difficult to find there in 5-quart jugs. I end up having to start searching a month or so before I need to actually change my oil. They also carry Royal Purple 5W-30, which I might start using instead.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill UberDork
7/23/13 10:18 a.m.

I was just there on Sunday buying motor oil. Wish I had known the Mobile was so cheap. I never look at it. Paid $24.97 for Valvoline.

02Pilot
02Pilot HalfDork
7/23/13 11:02 a.m.

Here's a little trick to minimize your Walmart exposure: go on their website and pre-order the items you want, then go straight to the customer pick-up (mine's in the back of the store), grab your stuff, and get the hell out. The website will show you what's in stock rather than what's on the shelf, so you never have to ask a floor employee to check in the back.

On topic, I figured this out when I got fed up with Mobil1 10w40 High Mileage never being out on the shelf.

Ian F
Ian F PowerDork
7/23/13 11:06 a.m.

(grumble...)

Why does it seem like every freakin' Walmart in the US sells M1 0w-40 except the oens near me...

(/grumble...)

mistanfo
mistanfo SuperDork
7/23/13 11:24 a.m.

I have an issue with only a few checkout lanes being open... At night, they typically have one set of entry doors locked, so you have to go to one side. Then, the checkout lane (possibly lanes) are at the far end. The last time I went in late night/early, I carried everything to the counter, paid, put the receipt in my wallet in front of the cashier, got to the door and the security guard (who watched the whole thing) demands to see my receipt. I kept walking, and he did nothing. I would have shown it if I didn't have both hands/arms full.

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
7/23/13 11:33 a.m.

Jonny Pruitt told me when he worked at an oil change place that Walmart was cheaper than he could get oil through his distributor.

Single quarts of cheap oil are sub-$2.50 at Walmart and ~$4.00 at OriellyAdvanceZone. Easy choice for me.

SilverFleet
SilverFleet SuperDork
7/23/13 12:01 p.m.

I'm not a fan of Walmart. Not because of the ethics of them running every other retail store chain into the ground, but rather the fact that the places are E36 M3 holes, there's zero customer service, and you have to deal with all the other idiots and their evil, unattended spawn that shop there. I cringe every time I step foot in one.

In spite of that, I still buy my oil there. They are the only place around here that carries Mobil 1 0W20 full synthetic at a reasonable price. Last time I changed my oil in the 3 a few weeks back it was $26.97 for the 5 quart jug (I usually pay $22 but I went to a different store than usual). It's at least $40 or more to get the same oil at one of the parts stores on the rare occasion that they have 5 quarts of it in stock at the same store.

Since the dealer wants $60+ to do an oil change, I just get my filters there or at Advance and the oil at Walmart.

mndsm
mndsm PowerDork
7/23/13 12:17 p.m.

I hate and refuse to shop at Walmart because they bulldozed the local drive in to put in another berkeleying Walmart. Oreipepzone hasn;t done that yet.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
7/23/13 1:08 p.m.

jere
jere Reader
7/23/13 1:40 p.m.
Bobzilla wrote: Screw you haters. I love Wal-Mart. I've been buying my oil there for years because it's much cheaper. I just don't get the wal-mart hate. They have the products I want, at the best price and usually have inventory when no one else does. I can get in and out and take care of 90% of my shopping needs at once. Why is that such a bad thing?

The bad part is how they destroy businesses (both the ones they buy from and the ones they compete with local and national). They are the top retail store so they are a big target for example, but they are very unscrupulous in the way work too. For example they go to a company of a widgets they want after analyzing all of the costs that company has (materials,labor shipping...). Walmart makes a huge bulk order of widgets and say we will buy this big order but we aren't going to pay you your going rates for your widget. We are only going to pay you half of what you want for your widgets since we know how much they cost you. You will have to hire some more non union employees at minimum wage, and buy lower grade products but you should barely be able to make a profit.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UberDork
7/23/13 1:43 p.m.

^ And those businesses have the option ofdeclining that order. There are always options and I just don't see the execs at Wally world holding a gun to their heads.

Something about building a better mousetrap....

jere
jere Reader
7/23/13 1:49 p.m.

In reply to Bobzilla:

They do have the option but the owners of the companies just see the money most of the time and don't care about employees or product quality as a result. So there are worse products more wage slaves and the rich get richer. There have been a few companies to decline walmart but only a handful like snapper http://www.fastcompany.com/54763/man-who-said-no-wal-mart

The other result is the population of the US is shifting to retail jobs. This means barely enough money to pay the bills and living paycheck to paycheck for the bulk of the US workforce soon. It's part of what is running the economy into the ground

Ranger50
Ranger50 PowerDork
7/23/13 1:51 p.m.
Bobzilla wrote: ^ And those businesses have the option ofdeclining that order. There are always options and I just don't see the execs at Wally world holding a gun to their heads. Something about building a better mousetrap....

Actually they do. They normally say, "Well we can get you into a factory in China and cut your costs in half... Or lose our business." Plus the contractual obligations of trying to sell to someone else.... of course I can choose to not take the order, but it is also hard to beat a "sure thing", even on the suckiest of terms.

SilverFleet
SilverFleet SuperDork
7/23/13 2:26 p.m.
jere wrote: In reply to Bobzilla: They do have the option but the owners of the companies just see the money most of the time and don't care about employees or product quality as a result. So there are worse products more wage slaves and the rich get richer. There have been a few companies to decline walmart but only a handful like snapper http://www.fastcompany.com/54763/man-who-said-no-wal-mart The other result is the population of the US is shifting to retail jobs. This means barely enough money to pay the bills and living paycheck to paycheck for the bulk of the US workforce soon. It's part of what is running the economy into the ground

They must have had a change of heart!

Snapper lawnmowers at Walmart!

Big box stores have destroyed the small yard equipment industry. Just because something has a "known" name on it doesn't mean it's a quality machine anymore. But that's a story for another thread.

slowride
slowride Reader
7/23/13 3:29 p.m.

I used to buy my oil at Menards, but now that I have a car that requires 0w-20 it's going to be Wal-Mart (which I don't generally go to because it's not very conveniently located). Cheaper is cheaper, and $5 cheaper is very worth it to me. I'll probably mail order Mazda filters though.

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