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dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/6/19 6:39 a.m.

I was thinking it was the 5.3. Is there another I am not thinking of?  

 

frenchyd
frenchyd UltraDork
2/6/19 6:45 a.m.

Jaguar V8. BMW, BOP / Range Rover 

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/6/19 6:45 a.m.

The 5.3 is not all that common in aluminum form.

 

I'd think the most common would be the Northstar.  They made millions of them.

 

OTOH, if you want worldwide, I'd think the answer would have to be the Rover V8.  Making the engine through several decades certainly helps.

GTXVette
GTXVette SuperDork
2/6/19 6:47 a.m.

since the 60's it was the Buick 215 then that beccame the Rover.

      Cadillac is now the one I would choose for Lightness,and 300 HP. The GM LS Series make stupid power but aren't all that Light.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
2/6/19 6:49 a.m.

Aren't some of the Ford mod motors alyouminium? 

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
2/6/19 6:51 a.m.

In reply to spitfirebill :

Not the most common ones.  The AL Mod V8's are placed like the AL LS engines....  

Ozzy
Ozzy New Reader
2/6/19 6:55 a.m.

Ford 4.6 & 5.4 modular engine were all aluminum I believe.  Used in the trucks & cars.  I have the 6.8 V-10 in my superduty which is also aluminum but they tacked on 2 more cylinders.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
2/6/19 6:56 a.m.

I was just recalling from the BBF thread yesterday somebody said iron block engines were cheaper to build than aluminum block engines and they were referring to Ford.  

yupididit
yupididit UltraDork
2/6/19 7:03 a.m.

The m113 was mercedes v8 from 98 to 07. They put them in everything that required a v8. Coupes, sedans, trucks, and etc. That has to be a lot of cars if we're speaking worldwide. 

Ozzy
Ozzy New Reader
2/6/19 7:07 a.m.

In reply to spitfirebill :

Could be but I don't know.for sure.  I do know the Mustang used that engine so there is a lot of aftermarket for them.  I guess it would all come down to the end goal for the engine.  I can't believe it would be anymore expensive unless you are doing something radical.

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/6/19 7:08 a.m.
Ozzy said:

Ford 4.6 & 5.4 modular engine were all aluminum I believe.  Used in the trucks & cars.  I have the 6.8 V-10 in my superduty which is also aluminum but they tacked on 2 more cylinders.

Most certainly not.  There were no SOHC aluminum block engines, and IIRC the DOHC used in Navigators had an iron block too.  You're looking at only a small handful of low-production cars, and the Mark VIII.

 

I haven't ever heard of an aluminum V10, or any truck engine for that matter.

 

edit:  Speaking of Mod motors here, not the 5.0 based engines.

Patientzero
Patientzero New Reader
2/6/19 7:09 a.m.

Coyote's are aluminum.  They are in millions of mustangs and F150's since 2012.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/6/19 7:10 a.m.
Ozzy said:

Ford 4.6 & 5.4 modular engine were all aluminum I believe.  Used in the trucks & cars.  I have the 6.8 V-10 in my superduty which is also aluminum but they tacked on 2 more cylinders.

Nope. All 4 of the mod motors I've owned have been iron blocks and aluminum heads. Two in Mustang GTs (4.6), one it a E150(5.4), one in a P71(4.6). 

Ozzy
Ozzy New Reader
2/6/19 7:26 a.m.

In reply to spitfirebill :

I was thinking those were aluminum blocks too.  Heck I have been in & out of mine enough I should know.  Now I'll have to run out to the barn later & check.

Ranger50
Ranger50 UltimaDork
2/6/19 7:36 a.m.

Explorer 4.6 sohc blocks are aluminum.

Patientzero
Patientzero New Reader
2/6/19 7:39 a.m.

In reply to Toyman01 :

The TEKSID block is an aluminum 4.6 but it's not common.  All the Mustang GT and Truck motors are iron.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
2/6/19 7:49 a.m.

2005+ Mustang 4.6s are aluminum block.  I know this because I have an 05.

From Wiki:

The 3-valve SOHC 4.6 L with variable camshaft timing (VCT) first appeared in the redesigned 2005 Ford Mustang.

The engines are equipped with an electronic Charge Motion Control Valve (CMCV) system that provides increased air velocity at low engine speeds for improved emissions and low-rpm torque. Cylinder block material varies between aluminum used in the 2005+ Mustang GT and cast iron used in the 2005+ Ford Explorer and the 2006+ Ford Explorer Sport Trac (see below), though the same aluminum heads are used in all applications.

edizzle89
edizzle89 SuperDork
2/6/19 9:06 a.m.

Between camaro's, trans-am's, GTO's, corvette's, CTS-V's, the couple aluminum 5.3's, and anything else I missed there are probably a decent number of aluminum LS engines out there.

yupididit
yupididit UltraDork
2/6/19 9:28 a.m.

Lol @ how many post about one family of engines because of some misinformation. This thread will be about the Ford mod engine pretty soon lol. GRM-ADHD cheeky 

RacetruckRon
RacetruckRon GRM+ Memberand Reader
2/6/19 9:47 a.m.

BMW V8s are pretty common in junkyards and craigslist around here.  While it may be apples to avocados, they seem to be quite a bit cheaper than aluminum LS engines as well.

Also 1UZ fits the bill.

pres589 (djronnebaum)
pres589 (djronnebaum) PowerDork
2/6/19 10:00 a.m.

The V8 out of the Lexus LS probably isn't the most common but they aren't rare.

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE Reader
2/6/19 10:48 a.m.

I think 1UZ-FE's are alloy, not pure aluminum. The LS has some aluminum derivatives, but outside of the LS1/LS3 the only other easily found ally block is from a special edition truck for a couple of years- and even then was still just a 5.3 that went on a diet. I'd say that maybe outside of the ford modular (which I thankfully have no experience with) BMW is whom I'd say has built the most.

 

In reply to Patientzero :

Cheap Coyote when

dclafleur
dclafleur New Reader
2/6/19 10:57 a.m.

All the Gen V GM V8's are Aluminum.  They started popping up in trucks around 2014.  I figure that's at least half a million a year.  Might not be the most common yet but if they keep using them it probably won't take long for them to be the most prolific.

yupididit
yupididit UltraDork
2/6/19 11:05 a.m.

In reply to GIRTHQUAKE :

I'm willing to bet there's def more Mercedes M113's than BMW M62's on this planet. 

dculberson
dculberson UltimaDork
2/6/19 11:08 a.m.

In reply to GIRTHQUAKE :

I’m confused by your distinction between “alloy” and “pure aluminum.” All aluminum is alloyed as pure aluminum isn’t that great. The 1uz is as “all aluminum” as any aluminum engine. 

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