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kevinatfms
kevinatfms New Reader
2/6/19 11:12 a.m.

Ford/Lincoln v8 Aluminum Blocks:
Teksid 4.6 - used in the 99/01 Cobra
05+ 3 Valve(Mustang)
Ford GT 5.4(no provision for starter)
GT500 5.4(late models + with start provision)
Aviator 4.6
Lincoln LS 3.9
Thunderbird 3.9
Navigator 5.4 DOHC
Coyote 5.0L

Im sure im missing one or two more...

 

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/6/19 11:56 a.m.

Very interesting!!!  I forgot about the MB motors.  

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
2/6/19 12:01 p.m.
Knurled. said:

I haven't ever heard of an aluminum V10, or any truck engine for that matter.

Viper?   

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
2/6/19 12:16 p.m.
Knurled. said:
 

I haven't ever heard of an aluminum V10, or any truck engine for that matter.

 

I know of one 4V V10, in a Mustang.  Yes, it was a prototype, and one that I suggested they make copies for the trophy truck racers that are supported.  That would have been pretty cool.

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand UberDork
2/6/19 1:20 p.m.

Afaik, all 5.3 engines in the 4 door Chevy trucks are aluminum.  That's a lot of engines!  I believe this is true as far back as 2011.

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/6/19 6:21 p.m.
spitfirebill said:
Knurled. said:

I haven't ever heard of an aluminum V10, or any truck engine for that matter.

Viper?   

Vipers had Mod motors?

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/6/19 6:44 p.m.
kevinatfms said:

Ford/Lincoln v8 Aluminum Blocks:
Teksid 4.6 - used in the 99/01 Cobra
05+ 3 Valve(Mustang)
Ford GT 5.4(no provision for starter)
GT500 5.4(late models + with start provision)
Aviator 4.6
Lincoln LS 3.9
Thunderbird 3.9
Navigator 5.4 DOHC
Coyote 5.0L

Im sure im missing one or two more...

 

Teksid 4.6L DOHC is also in the 96-98 Cobra and is an aluminum block.

Will
Will UltraDork
2/6/19 7:37 p.m.

I believe the 99 & 01 Cobras got the WAP block, noet the Teksid block. I'm pretty sure that the Teksid 4.6 block only came in the 93-98 Mark VIII and 96-98 Cobra.

The 02-10 Explorer and Mountaineer got an aluminum block SOHC 4.6.

Patrick
Patrick GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/6/19 7:48 p.m.

Whatever you guys figure out came in the fords here and there, i’m willing to put a nickel on the northstar as far as american stuff goes, and worldwide if you’re counting the rover displacement changes as their own entities 

dculberson
dculberson UltimaDork
2/6/19 10:02 p.m.

I know the Rover engines got put in a lot of different vehicles for a long time, but were any of them high volume sales vehicles?

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/6/19 10:28 p.m.

define high volume? There were certainly a lot of V8 Land Rovers out there.

 

dculberson
dculberson UltimaDork
2/6/19 10:40 p.m.

Like the 500,000 per year that Chevy cranks out of the aluminum block 5.3. Seems like the V8 Land Rovers were pretty low volume compared to that, and they haven't used the Rover v8 for what, 20 years? Their sales volume was even lower back then.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/6/19 11:37 p.m.

I think 2004 was the last year of Buick/Rover v8, but I think a couple of smaller firms were still using it beyond that point.

kevinatfms
kevinatfms New Reader
2/7/19 6:02 a.m.
Will said:

I believe the 99 & 01 Cobras got the WAP block, noet the Teksid block. I'm pretty sure that the Teksid 4.6 block only came in the 93-98 Mark VIII and 96-98 Cobra.

The 02-10 Explorer and Mountaineer got an aluminum block SOHC 4.6.

From what i remember the 99/01 Cobra got whatever was left then switched to the WAP block. I do know of one guy that had a Teksid in his 99. But you are right, the majority did have the updated(and weaker) WAP block.

 

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
2/7/19 6:08 a.m.
Knurled. said:
spitfirebill said:
Knurled. said:

I haven't ever heard of an aluminum V10, or any truck engine for that matter.

Viper?   

Vipers had Mod motors?

Didn’t realize you were talking only about Ford V-10s. 

tr8todd
tr8todd Dork
2/7/19 6:18 a.m.

The Rover variants may no longer be the leader in the most produced category, but they certainly are the easiest to go out and find.  Go to any junkyard and there is a Rover of some sort, and they are usually there because of engine failures, or at the very least head gasket failures.  Right now on my CL there are three minty cheap 4.6L Range Rovers all needing head gaskets.  The Rover is still a great engine if your goal is light weight sub 300 HP.  A 4.6 with a cam, headers and four barrel will get you around 275HP.  Goes well in any 2500 pound sports car.  Fully dressed engines come in at 315 to 340 pounds.  You want more power than that, then break out the sledgehammer and get an LS.

edizzle89
edizzle89 SuperDork
2/7/19 8:40 a.m.
wvumtnbkr said:

Afaik, all 5.3 engines in the 4 door Chevy trucks are aluminum.  That's a lot of engines!  I believe this is true as far back as 2011.

Also the 5.3's that came in the Envoy (and all it's siblings) are aluminum as well.

Curtis
Curtis GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
2/7/19 10:41 a.m.

Not to mention nearly every passenger-car LS has an aluminum block.  LS1, 2, 3, 6, 7, etc.  There are tons of those out there in 5.7L.

Probably also a few billion Northstars out there.

JmfnB
JmfnB GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/7/19 11:14 a.m.

In reply to Curtis :

Why do I remember the Northstar being dog awful heavy?

Dead_Sled
Dead_Sled Reader
2/7/19 11:25 a.m.

In reply to JmfnB :

For the FWD cars they're about 400 lbs for the long block, 460 ish dressed.

MotorsportsGordon
MotorsportsGordon HalfDork
2/7/19 12:54 p.m.
Curtis said:

Not to mention nearly every passenger-car LS has an aluminum block.  LS1, 2, 3, 6, 7, etc.  There are tons of those out there in 5.7L.

Probably also a few billion Northstars out there.

Plus in addition to North America you can add the holdens plus the holdens that we’re sent to the uk as vauxhalls.

north America wise just with gm these are some that came with ls engines

all the full size gm pickups 

suburban,tahoe,Yukon,Escalade,avalanche

corvette

cts

camaro

firebird

impala Grand Prix lacrosse Monte Carlo 

canyon and Colorado 

ssr

trailblazer envoy Rainer ,9-7x,Ascender

hummer h2 h3

gto g8 ss caprice 

 

Then there the many gm ls crate engines sold 

 

 

edizzle89
edizzle89 SuperDork
2/7/19 2:55 p.m.
MotorsportsGordon said:
Curtis said:

Not to mention nearly every passenger-car LS has an aluminum block.  LS1, 2, 3, 6, 7, etc.  There are tons of those out there in 5.7L.

Probably also a few billion Northstars out there.

Plus in addition to North America you can add the holdens plus the holdens that we’re sent to the uk as vauxhalls.

north America wise just with gm these are some that came with ls engines

all the full size gm pickups 

suburban,tahoe,Yukon,Escalade,avalanche

corvette

cts

camaro

firebird

impala Grand Prix lacrosse Monte Carlo 

canyon and Colorado 

ssr

trailblazer envoy Rainer ,9-7x,Ascender

hummer h2 h3

gto g8 ss caprice 

 

Then there the many gm ls crate engines sold 

 

 

most the trucks and fullsize suv's had iron blocks which excludes them, if i remember right so did the hummer and maybe the colorado's as well?

frenchyd
frenchyd UltraDork
2/7/19 3:41 p.m.
tr8todd said:

The Rover variants may no longer be the leader in the most produced category, but they certainly are the easiest to go out and find.  Go to any junkyard and there is a Rover of some sort, and they are usually there because of engine failures, or at the very least head gasket failures.  Right now on my CL there are three minty cheap 4.6L Range Rovers all needing head gaskets.  The Rover is still a great engine if your goal is light weight sub 300 HP.  A 4.6 with a cam, headers and four barrel will get you around 275HP.  Goes well in any 2500 pound sports car.  Fully dressed engines come in at 315 to 340 pounds.  You want more power than that, then break out the sledgehammer and get an LS.

Weight and horsepower you would do better with an inline 6 like the GM Atlas engine.  All aluminum DOHC 4valve 4.2 liter 290 hp stock in later ones.  More power? Use the GM flex fuel sensor and pick up 40-50 horsepower. 

Of course you could supercharge/ Turbo charge  pick up about 100 hp. Use Flex fuel sensor and pick up another 50+ horsepower. 

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE Reader
2/7/19 4:31 p.m.
tr8todd said:

The Rover variants may no longer be the leader in the most produced category, but they certainly are the easiest to go out and find.  Go to any junkyard and there is a Rover of some sort, and they are usually there because of engine failures, or at the very least head gasket failures.  Right now on my CL there are three minty cheap 4.6L Range Rovers all needing head gaskets.  The Rover is still a great engine if your goal is light weight sub 300 HP.  A 4.6 with a cam, headers and four barrel will get you around 275HP.  Goes well in any 2500 pound sports car.  Fully dressed engines come in at 315 to 340 pounds.  You want more power than that, then break out the sledgehammer and get an LS.

In America? I know the original Buick 215 can still be found, but the Rover variant is something of a different beast- cause if I can snag a rover V8 I have a challenge idea for it...

dculberson
dculberson UltimaDork
2/7/19 4:38 p.m.

In reply to frenchyd :

I don't think an inline 6 is a particularly light engine. I see listed weights of around 470 lbs for an Atlas 4.2, and that's significantly heavier than most LS series v8s.

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