Most overhyped, disappointing car you've ever driven?

3650/370Z, FR-S/BR-Z, and 5th Gen Camaro SS. The Camaro and Z cars were the same impression. Bloated, overweight, and just not exciting. FR-S/BR-Z were just a yawn in my test drives. At least with the 200hp you get out of a new Si, Vtak lets you know power is on and it screams a bit. They also felt just as cheaply put together as new WRX/STis.

mtn wrote: Similarly, I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would drive a Wrangler, yet people out there love them.

Imagine having a street legal tractor that will go 80mph and keep you somewhat dry when it rains. Comes in handy.

HiTempguy wrote: I feel that the people who can't appreciate rwd cars on the street have never owned a car with "enough" power. Fwd cars suck when gratuitous power is put through them. RWD cars = insta-hoonage (ya ya, it's illegal blah blah blah so is speeding). I'm not condoning driving like an shiny happy person, but when you can peel away from a light turning left across an intersection and just drift the ass-end out EVER SO SLIGHTLY it feels like heaven. I have been disappointed by many cars. Most of VW's products stock come to mind, as well as the Focus (I don't care what anyone says, that is a god awful car). Part of my disappointment probably stems from driving one of the lightest production cars ever made (turbo firefly/Swift GT's) typically with modifications done to them. Kind of taints the soul a bit in regards to lightweight nimble cars. And then driving high hp rwd cars does the same thing at the heavier end of the spectrum. AND having raced heavier higher powered fwd cars, you realize how much THOSE suck.

I have a 250-270whp Miata. I can honestly say that I enjoy my MX6 more.

None berkeleys given about the how.

z31maniac wrote:

crankwalk wrote:

z31maniac wrote:

crankwalk wrote:

Joe Gearin wrote: Imagine a car like 370Z, with 285s all around 3200lbs and ~400-450HP.

OR a car the size of an FRS with 300 hp out of a high revving 2.4 straight 6 and get a modern 240Z. I'd buy 2

Wheelbase, length and height are nearly identical. The Z adds another 3" in width.........I'd still call them close enough in size as to be a wash.

There is nearly a 700 lb weight difference as well if I'm not mistaken.

More like 400 according (3200 vs 2800) to what I'm reading, but the Z is also a leather clad/BOSE stereo/NAV having Grand Touring car with a 340HP V6 and sub 5 sec 0-60.......not a spartan, underpowered 4 banger. They are not really meant to be directly compared. I was just pointing out your concept of FR-S being "smaller" isn't accurate.

Ok so 400 lbs less and 3 inches more narrow BUT with 300 hp is what I'm saying the Z SHOULD be, I was never comparing the two cars

SRT-8 Challenger, When I was working for a Mopar dealer I was lucky enough to drive each SRT car (08-09ish time frame) and even with a real MT that E36 M3ty E36 M3 made me want to get in a 4cyl sebring convertible........

Subaru XT. The hype had it being a turbo wonder. Reality was that it was as boring as a K car.

Swank Force One wrote: I have a 250-270whp Miata. I can honestly say that I enjoy my MX6 more. None berkeleys given about the how.

"In the quiet words of the virgin mary, come again?"

I think I'd be more than thrilled if mine had 150whp! However, I kind of know what you're talking about since the 5.0 had so much shunt, it bordered on nerve wracking more than fun sometimes driving it on the street.

Uhhhh the opposite really. The Miata isn't scary enough, not enough drama, it's all too easy.

The MX6 is scary, more involved, and more engaging. Despite this, it's also infinitely more comfortable.

I think deep down there's something hiding in a Miata thay I like. So... I'm building a 400whp+ Miata to test that theory.

At the risk of being banned.

E30 M3, E36 M3, S2000, Miata

Pretty much anything GM built from 1985 until 2005

aussiesmg wrote: Pretty much anything GM built from 1985 until 2005

GNX, ST/TY, C4 ZR1,C5 Z06?

E30 M3, E36 M3, and E92 M3. . .

E30 M3 for the street is overhyped. Oh wow that thing feels slow. I co-drove one at an autox and was still like . . . meh, give me 325is instead.

Having own a E36 M3 and its plain jane relatives (318 and 325), I say gimme the 325/328. 90% of M3 power at 20% of the cost. Take rest and go on vacation . . .

E92 M3 . . . Ugh, you have to rev the piss out of it get going. 295 tq @ 4000 revs in 3700lb coupe makes for a hoo hum street runner. It feel no more powerful than my E34 530i in the low RPM range

crankwalk wrote:

aussiesmg wrote: Pretty much anything GM built from 1985 until 2005

GNX, ST/TY, C4 ZR1,C5 Z06?

I did say Pretty Much

4 cars in 20 years, and one of them is actually from prior to 85, I stand oh so corrected.

Miata and MX-5. Though my buddy's turbo NA is pretty fun.

WRX. I drove it and wasn't impressed with anything it did: wasn't that fast, shifter was rubbery, interior was cheap, lots of body roll. Meh.

Strike_Zero wrote: E92 M3 . . . Ugh, you have to rev the piss out of it get going. 295 tq @ 4000 revs in 3700lb coupe makes for a hoo hum street runner. It feel no more powerful than my E34 530i in the low RPM range

I drove one with the DCT and thought it was amazing.

But that kind of comparison to a car that is only a few hundred lbs less and has 40% less tq, I just don't understand.

I guess maybe if you're trying to lug it around 40mph in 6th gear it might feel sluggish, but why would you do that?

foxtrapper wrote: Subaru XT. The hype had it being a turbo wonder. Reality was that it was as boring as a K car.

Yep, this. Bought the hype, finally found one, wanted to like it soooooo bad. But it sucked . . . really, really sucked. Even given ironic hipster points for being a turbo'd wagon, it was slow, handled like a Brinks truck, had a cheap, crappy interior and had the usual "its a turbo'd Subie, it must be worth $$$$$$$$" price on it. It was kind of like clicking on one of those "stars without makeup" news links.

aussiesmg wrote:

crankwalk wrote:

aussiesmg wrote: Pretty much anything GM built from 1985 until 2005

GNX, ST/TY, C4 ZR1,C5 Z06?

I did say Pretty Much 4 cars in 20 years, and one of them is actually from prior to 85, I stand oh so corrected.

None of those models are before 85 but I hear you. The non intercooled turbo Buicks dont count in "GNX"

For me it had to be the C5 corvette. A friend bought one a couple years ago and he let me take it for a drive. It was a 6 speed convertible. While the car was in great shape and looked great, it just felt fat and sluggish. Plus it had the same steering wheel as my 1998 bonneville, which was a total boner killer.

I did get the chance to flog a C5Z which was quite a bit better, but still not the superhero of a car I was expecting.

z31maniac wrote:

Strike_Zero wrote: E92 M3 . . . Ugh, you have to rev the piss out of it get going. 295 tq @ 4000 revs in 3700lb coupe makes for a hoo hum street runner. It feel no more powerful than my E34 530i in the low RPM range

I drove one with the DCT and thought it was amazing. But that kind of comparison to a car that is only a few hundred lbs less and has 40% less tq, I just don't understand. I guess maybe if you're trying to lug it around 40mph in 6th gear it might feel sluggish, but why would you do that?

Clutch and row yerself gearbox left me feeling cold, again in the low rpm range. After 4 grand it was wonderful, but who wants to buzz around town @ 4000+ rpm in V8 . . .

To me, the S65 feels just like a S14 . . .

Never drove a one with DCT.

E30 325is. I've spent 3 years and more money than I care to admit trying to understand why you people love this POS so much...

Back when I was 20, I test drove a '69 Charger General Lee replica. 383 auto. It was fast, for sure, but coming from my '82 Subaru 4WD wagon, it was my first experience with horrific muscle car handling.

1963 Corvette Stingray coupe

Slow, awful steering and brakes, uncomfortable, and terrible visability. It was the first classic car I drove. Cars have come a long way since 1963.

Sonic wrote: WRX. I drove it and wasn't impressed with anything it did: wasn't that fast, shifter was rubbery, interior was cheap, lots of body roll. Meh.

+1. STI = Fat pushy pig. They make nice noises. That's about all I got.

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GTO, LS1 Firebird Formula / Trans Am, LS1 Camaro Z28 / SS, LT1 Firebird Formula / Trans Am, LT1 Camaro Z28 / SS, LT1 Impala SS, Cobalt SS/SC, Cobalt SS/TC, Pontiac Grand Prix GTP / GXP, Solstice GXP / Sky GXP, GNX, Turbo Trans Am, Syclone / Typhoon, C4 ZR1, LT4 C4, C5 FRC, C5 Z06, C4 Grand Sport, 3rd Gen Camaro 1LE, 3rd Gen Firebird Formula 350, Saturn SC2...

Mazdaspeed Miata.

Expected my NA but with the added fun of boost and little more refined/highway friendly.

Only found lag and stupid gearing