I lust after a new Mustang, but the cost has kept me away. I still need a 4-door sedan to do Dad things with. But this would pry the money from me every month, as long as it is a real Mustang, not a Charger.
I lust after a new Mustang, but the cost has kept me away. I still need a 4-door sedan to do Dad things with. But this would pry the money from me every month, as long as it is a real Mustang, not a Charger.
That is a gorgeous render. Given the dearth of sedans with a V8 and manual transmission, it seems like it would sell reasonably well.
I heard rumors about this. I think it could be cool. There's gonna be a Corvette SUV, so a Mustang sedan doesn't bother me. I do like the idea of calling it a Falcon!
A 4 door, V8, stick shift car at a more reasonable price point than the Cadillac offerings? Yes, please. I don't even care what you call it or who builds it. Just come take my money!
CrashDummy said:A 4 door, V8, stick shift car at a more reasonable price point than the Cadillac offerings? Yes, please. I don't even care what you call it or who builds it. Just come take my money!
i wouldn't assume it'll be much cheaper than the CT4V blackwing. That is based on the camaro alpha platform that has a 6cyl twin turbo where a v8 would have fit. When Ford charges the same for the darkwing as BMW charges for an M2, i would assume that a 4 door v8 mustang that is as capable on the track as the smaller blackwing will likely cost just as much as the caddy. Also Ford thinks they can compete with BMW (see M2 and Dark wing costing the same) so value based pricing would dictate that its competitors would be all the BMW 3 and 5 sized sport sedans.
i.e. if you want a 4 door mustang, buy a blackwing :)
I would love to see the Falcon name attached, but I won't get my hopes up.
(But man that would be cool if Ford brought back the Falcon nameplate)
I would love a mustang sedan. Doesn't even need the V8. 2.3L is fine. But I want the same chassis.
Same with a Camaro. I know you can argue the ATS is a Camaro sedan, but it was a base-camaro drivetrain at a MUCH higher cost.
It should be Falcon, but let's be realistic. There's no way Ford is going away from the "Mustang" brand with this car. The name is too valuable. So valuable they put it on an electric crossover. I predict it'll be something like "Mustang Mach 4" or something.
It's not as bad a use of the name as the Mustang Mockery, er, Mach E, but I still say call it the Falcon or Torino.
The branding of the Mach E as a Mustang was so negatively received I can't imagine they'd try to pull a 4 door Mustang on us. Falcon, Fairlane or any Mercury name no longer used would be better. Or hey, how about coming up with a completely original, new name? How novel!
ddavidv said:The branding of the Mach E as a Mustang was so negatively received I can't imagine they'd try to pull a 4 door Mustang on us.
What do you mean? Everyone was talking about it! So much free advertising :) And those who bought one weren't turned off by the name enough to not buy one, even if they grumbled. I'd say that's a total win from Ford's perspective.
I am a big fan of a 4 door Mustang (and Camaro) if you want to save the segment.
Remember back when the sentiment was you couldn't do "real off-road" if it wasn't a 2dr Jeep CJ5/7/Wrangler. The advent of 4 dr versions saved the segment.
I'd be willing to bet that 2dr Wranglers make up less than 20% of current Wrangler sales mix. I was amazed that the Bronco was offered in 2dr but I think that was still a hold out of old thinking to prove it should be taken seriously.
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) said:It should be Falcon, but let's be realistic. There's no way Ford is going away from the "Mustang" brand with this car. The name is too valuable. So valuable they put it on an electric crossover. I predict it'll be something like "Mustang Mach 4" or something.
Nailed it:
https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-mustang-mach-4-would-be-the-first-ford-sedan-in-years
I remember when the S197 was released and there were rumors that there would be a Lincoln version. A Mustang-based Lincoln? I remember the pure outrage that the purists were screaming. Make it a sedan with the Mustang drivetrain and a manual. There hasn't been a hotrod Lincoln since the MKVIII.
I'm all for it
ddavidv said:The branding of the Mach E as a Mustang was so negatively received I can't imagine they'd try to pull a 4 door Mustang on us. Falcon, Fairlane or any Mercury name no longer used would be better. Or hey, how about coming up with a completely original, new name? How novel!
Among enthusiasts, yes, but the general public doesn't give a toss about what's a "real" Mustang. Hell, I don't, and I've owned 5 of them.
Anyhow, if the name was that badly received, they'd have changed it in the four years since the car came out. In fact, the Mach E outsold the "real" Mustang last year.
A 4-door with a manual? Seems bloody unlikely. And are they going to find some more legroom? Otherwise, what's the point? "Look, we've added easy access to the penalty box!"
The last gen Fusion shared subframe mounting geometry with the S550 Mustang. Ford could have given us this product using available parts. Revive the Galaxy name for a full sized 4 door with a V8 and rear wheel drive. And I hate to say it, I would prefer that to this.
dyintorace said:That is a gorgeous render. Given the dearth of sedans with a V8 and manual transmission, it seems like it would sell reasonably well.
Or the dearth of sedans with a V8 and manual transmission is because nobody was buying them.
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Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) said:ddavidv said:The branding of the Mach E as a Mustang was so negatively received I can't imagine they'd try to pull a 4 door Mustang on us. Falcon, Fairlane or any Mercury name no longer used would be better. Or hey, how about coming up with a completely original, new name? How novel!
Among enthusiasts, yes, but the general public doesn't give a toss about what's a "real" Mustang. Hell, I don't, and I've owned 5 of them.
Anyhow, if the name was that badly received, they'd have changed it in the four years since the car came out. In fact, the Mach E outsold the "real" Mustang last year.
We've become a nation of women. Or of girly men.
Men don't care about practical, men want two doors and bad-assery.
We're men, damnit!
I sure hope Ford won't bastardize it more, the ugly M-E notwithstanding.
Depends on management, but I'd hope they keep the mustang where it is, along with the Miata, the Corvette, the 911. I hope Toyobaru keeps the twins going, but, only 10 years in with that one.
I think hot rod sedans with manual gearboxes have gone the way of the dinosaur. And, seems to me they were kind of the territory of BMW big sedans/5 series, though that changed with the E30 in 87, when a fair amount of 3-sedans could be had with 3 pedals. And without looking, I'd guess you can't get a 5er with a manual anymore.
I don't think even in the heyday of American muscle there were a lot of 4 speed sedans, not sure why any American manufacturer would do one today (though God bless the CTS -V).
There just no brand history there for a manual sedan (and the Miata, Vette, 911, and Mustang I think define the marques, at least car wise).
I say keep the true Mustang the two door it's always been
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