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iceracer
iceracer MegaDork
1/5/21 3:28 p.m.

FCA and PSA have agreed to merge and form a new company

Patientzero
Patientzero HalfDork
1/5/21 4:57 p.m.

FCA is Fiat Chrysler correct?

What is PSA?

Slippery (Forum Supporter)
Slippery (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
1/5/21 5:00 p.m.

In reply to Patientzero :

Peugeot, Citroen, Vauxhall, Opel, plus more. 

tester (Forum Supporter)
tester (Forum Supporter) Reader
1/5/21 5:07 p.m.

There can be no fail in this. 
 

Monster trucks, Italian artists, and French designers; not sure what you get out of that combo. 

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
1/5/21 5:11 p.m.

Wait. Vauxhall and opel are/were gm labels. So...?

Mndsm said:

Wait. Vauxhall and opel are/were gm labels. So...?

Ok. Im not crazy. I had the same thoughts....

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/5/21 5:18 p.m.

Get something like the lm002 but not nearly as reliable...

 

Isn't this he the bituebo came into existence?

 

Or, will we at something closer to the dodge omni?

ShawnG
ShawnG UltimaDork
1/5/21 5:21 p.m.

Really? We just got done with 2020 and the new year starts with a hellspawn like Chrysler build quality mixed with French engineering...

Stop the planet, I want to get off.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/5/21 5:29 p.m.

You forgot the name!

Stellantis

It sounds more like a drug I would use to keep my ph levels under control if I was afflicted by a very specific variant of irritable bowel syndrome combined with male menopause or something. Ask your doctor about Stellantis today!

Chrysler the car company is basically somnolent. They sell their minivan and the 300, which was basically introduced in 2005. Will they survive?

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand UberDork
1/5/21 5:33 p.m.

And they are a Dutch company.  Who would have ever thought the 4th largest auto manufacture would be Dutch?

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand UberDork
1/5/21 5:35 p.m.
wvumtnbkr said:

 

Isn't this he the bituebo came into existence?

Nope.  The Bitrouble was from when Maserati was independant.  Between the Citroen and Fiat ownership.  DeTomaso had bought the marque.

Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter)
Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) Dork
1/5/21 5:45 p.m.

Remember back in the 1950s when Studebaker merged with Packard and that company tried to merge unsuccessfully with the Nash/Hudson Company that later became American Motors. How many of those nameplates still exist? 

The only surviving part of American Motors that was absorbed by Chrysler was Jeep which is now part of this new clusterberk. 

History repeats itself. 

Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter)
Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) Dork
1/5/21 5:48 p.m.

Ah yes. Stellantis. The American Motors of the Future. 

In ten years, every single one of those nameplates will die, except for Jeep, and Elon Musk will probably buy that just to get the name. 

Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter)
Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) Dork
1/5/21 5:50 p.m.
m4ff3w said:

And they are a Dutch company.  Who would have ever thought the 4th largest auto manufacture would be Dutch?

The lawyers and accountants put them there for some reason only an MBA specializing in International Commerce and Taxation could understand. 

Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter)
Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) Dork
1/5/21 5:54 p.m.
Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter) said:
Mndsm said:

Wait. Vauxhall and opel are/were gm labels. So...?

Ok. Im not crazy. I had the same thoughts....

Peugeot/Citroen bought out Vauxhall and Opel because.......well because nobody else would. cheeky

They also bought Hindustan Motors from India because they needed the Hindustan Ambassador to add yet another really weird car to the mix. The Hindustan Ambassador is basically an updated Morris Oxford that is still being manufactured in India. Yeah. They got the old plans from Morris that got bought out by BMC that got bought out by British Leyland that got bought out by the Rover Group that sold the name "Morris" to Nanjing Automobile Group of China that somehow belongs with all these other unwanted orphan marques for ....... who knows what reason. 

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro, and get into the automotive mergers and acquisitions business. 

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
1/5/21 6:07 p.m.

Welcome to six months ago... wink  shareholders did vote on the merger yesterday, but plans for the merger were announced some time back.

Slippery (Forum Supporter)
Slippery (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
1/5/21 6:11 p.m.
Mndsm said:

Wait. Vauxhall and opel are/were gm labels. So...?

GM Europe was part of PSA I believe. They got out of it. 

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand UberDork
1/5/21 6:13 p.m.
Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) said:
m4ff3w said:

And they are a Dutch company.  Who would have ever thought the 4th largest auto manufacture would be Dutch?

The lawyers and accountants put them there for some reason only an MBA specializing in International Commerce and Taxation could understand. 

Oh for sure.  I totally get that.  Just sayin.. what was the last Dutch auto manufacturer?  Spyker?  

preach
preach GRM+ Memberand Reader
1/5/21 6:17 p.m.

A friend has a '37 Chevy panel wagon and painted on each side is a graveyard scene with headstones for all of the now gone marques of American cars.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
1/5/21 6:34 p.m.

Is your friend Dennis Anderson?

It's finally happening...

 

A Citroen C4 Cactus Hellcat Redeye TRX

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
1/5/21 6:38 p.m.
Appleseed said:

Is your friend Dennis Anderson?

If he is, can I be friends too?

iceracer
iceracer MegaDork
1/5/21 6:43 p.m.

In reply to stuart in mn :

Then it was an idea.  Now it is official.

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/5/21 6:59 p.m.
stuart in mn said:

Welcome to six months ago... wink  shareholders did vote on the merger yesterday, but plans for the merger were announced some time back.

Pretty sure we talked about it then, too. But I can't find the thread.

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed UltraDork
1/5/21 8:22 p.m.
Keith Tanner said:

You forgot the name!

Stellantis

It sounds more like a drug I would use to keep my ph levels under control if I was afflicted by a very specific variant of irritable bowel syndrome combined with male menopause or something. Ask your doctor about Stellantis today!

Chrysler the car company is basically somnolent. They sell their minivan and the 300, which was basically introduced in 2005. Will they survive?

Don't forget the whole mess was also called Cerberus at one time in the past. Another drug sounding name. Presumably for ED. It didn't work either.

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