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stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
1/5/21 9:11 p.m.
Feedyurhed said:
Don't forget the whole mess was also called Cerberus at one time in the past. Another drug sounding name. Presumably for ED. It didn't work either.

Cerberus had a more sinister meaning that was probably appropriate for that previous rendition...

In Greek mythology, Cerberus, often referred to as the hound of Hades, is a multi-headed dog that guards the gates of the Underworld to prevent the dead from leaving. He was the offspring of the monsters Echidna and Typhon, and was usually described as having three heads, a serpent for a tail, and snakes protruding from multiple parts of his body. 

ddavidv
ddavidv PowerDork
1/5/21 9:22 p.m.

This may or may not succeed in Europe.

It will spectacularly fail in the US.

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/5/21 9:24 p.m.
Feedyurhed said:

Don't forget the whole mess was also called Cerberus at one time in the past. Another drug sounding name. Presumably for ED. It didn't work either.

Technically, Cerberus was the name of the capital management firm that bought Chrysler from Daimler, it wasn't the name of the whole company.

 

sleepyhead the buffalo
sleepyhead the buffalo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
1/6/21 5:32 a.m.
Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) said:
m4ff3w said:

And they are a Dutch company.  Who would have ever thought the 4th largest auto manufacture would be Dutch?

The lawyers and accountants put them there for some reason only an MBA specializing in International Commerce and Taxation could understand. 

I wonder if it has more to do with competing with VW on electric vehicle solutions.  Lots of expertise on electric motor drive and control in the Netherlands.

alfadriver (Forum Supporter)
alfadriver (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
1/6/21 6:00 a.m.
ddavidv said:

This may or may not succeed in Europe.

It will spectacularly fail in the US.

Depends on what their goals are.

If all they want to do is milk the heck out of the Jeep brand, they will probably do really well.  Beyond that, well....  

Seeing the actual effort to sell Fiats and Alfas, yea, whatever they try to introduce will likely do nothing.  I'm confident that whatever they have figured out what caused Fiat and Alfa to fall will be lost, multiple times.

BoxheadTim (Forum Supporter)
BoxheadTim (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/6/21 6:53 a.m.
Slippery (Forum Supporter) said:
Mndsm said:

Wait. Vauxhall and opel are/were gm labels. So...?

GM Europe was part of PSA I believe. They got out of it. 

Not really - GM Europe sold Opel/Vaushall to PSA for financial reasons, ie GM seems to have had problems making money in Europe for a while. 

BoxheadTim (Forum Supporter)
BoxheadTim (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/6/21 6:55 a.m.
sleepyhead the buffalo said:
Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) said:
m4ff3w said:

And they are a Dutch company.  Who would have ever thought the 4th largest auto manufacture would be Dutch?

The lawyers and accountants put them there for some reason only an MBA specializing in International Commerce and Taxation could understand. 

I wonder if it has more to do with competing with VW on electric vehicle solutions.  Lots of expertise on electric motor drive and control in the Netherlands.

That's what some of the European media are saying. FCA is well behind the curve on electrification, with PSA being well ahead of them and a lot of other big European car manufacturers. 

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt UltimaDork
1/6/21 7:11 a.m.

Other interesting trivia: In the early '80s, Chrysler sold its European assets to Peugeot.

iceracer
iceracer MegaDork
1/6/21 11:02 a.m.

Wonder what a new Stellantis will look like.  Sedan,coupe,suv.laugh

GCrites80s
GCrites80s HalfDork
1/6/21 11:10 a.m.
tester (Forum Supporter) said:

There can be no fail in this. 
 

Monster trucks, Italian artists, and French designers; not sure what you get out of that combo. 

Rams with mustaches?

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/6/21 11:58 a.m.

The real question here is what kind of crazy swaps will now be possible in classes that allow updates / backdates / etc? Hellcat Le Car?

GCrites80s
GCrites80s HalfDork
1/6/21 11:03 p.m.

^Remember Lancia has been Mopar for years

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