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John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/17/09 12:35 p.m.

... That'll buff out.

kpm
kpm New Reader
9/17/09 5:25 p.m.

I guess all those fire extinguishers lined up along the road in the first video were for show.

andrave
andrave Reader
9/18/09 1:07 p.m.

I like how the first post promises that their new developments are going to "blow" your mind.

Indeed.

And I think its worth noting that this was the second time the car had flames coming out of it (the first being when they destroyed the shortblock). Also interesting that they blamed that failure on a factory defect as well. I don't think its fair to try to up the boost as much as they had and take for granted that the stock rods (and now fuel lines) would be up to the task. More boost= more fuel, whether the components were stock or not. You wouldn't expect stock IC piping to hold up under double the boost, and you can't expect fuel components to hold up if you increase the pressure there, either.

Lessons: 1) Fire supression systems are cheaper than replacing fire damaged cars. 2) Once your car catches fire once, you should have learned. 3) Don't trust hoes or hyundais.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla HalfDork
9/18/09 1:15 p.m.

Excuse me? What is wrong with a Hyundai? Or is it the closed mindedness of the american public again? Geesh,......

they DOUBLED the whp on the stock shortblock before it ate itself. If I read correctly they were pushing even more than that on the current built block, so what STOCK fule system is going to handle that? None. You need to upgrade ALL of it, not the parts that you think will only make more power. I think that's pretty impressive.

And the trusting Hyundai's... well I've done JUST that for the last close to 8 years and am glad I did. I not only saved money on the purchase, but I've saved it on repairs, saved it on gas and I've had a helluva good time driving it. To blast the name is ruhtarded.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess SuperDork
9/18/09 1:26 p.m.

Good point on the boost and fuel. Remember that most fuel pressure regulators are indexed to the manifold pressure, with a typical goal of 46 PSI over MAP. During vacuum states, the actual fuel pressure will drop below 46. At, say, 3 BAR boost, that fuel line would have almost double that pressure. Fuel lines should be able to handle that, but I'd guess you're starting to push the envelope there. I don't know how much boost they were running on Fire Number Two, but running more than stock will mean the fuel lines were running more pressure than stock as well.

andrave
andrave Reader
9/18/09 2:33 p.m.

Yeah. Thats more eloquently put.

Well. Not even that eloquent. Just better.

Travis_K
Travis_K HalfDork
9/18/09 3:28 p.m.

Why with all the other saftey features now do cars not come stock with fire suppression systems? I know any car can catch on fire, but new cars have much more potential for a hotter fire that will burn the entire car. At least from what i have seen in the junkyard, when 90s and older cars burn, its usually confined to under the hood and possibly the dashboard, etc. There are many 2000+ cars with the wheels melted into puddles stuck to the brake rotors, cylinder heads dripped down the side of the block, etc. I think when something like that happens its usually becasue of an electric fuel pump that keeps running and pumps more fuel out of the tank. With a 60s carbed car, once the engine is off, there at least wont be more gas being pumped out of a broken fuel line under the hood (well as long as the car is in neutral or stopped).

Otto_Maddox
Otto_Maddox New Reader
9/18/09 3:56 p.m.

Can you really get some sort of insurance that covers you in a situation like this? It seems more like a normal cost of business for a tuner.

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/18/09 4:06 p.m.

Yes, they call it bankruptcy.

andrave
andrave Reader
9/18/09 7:23 p.m.

Call the finance company, inform them you are defaulting, offer to speed up the process by having the wrecker drop the vehicle off at their location for repossessing. Wish them luck. Tell them goodbye.

xci_ed6
xci_ed6 Reader
9/20/09 8:09 p.m.

hmmm, I read the story about how the first engine failed it seems fishy. As does blaming the manufacturer on a car that has been modified that extensively.

Where were the emergency crews at that drift event? I can't believe the car burned that far, especially with crews on standby. I was a firefighter, and dealt with many car fires, none of them burned that far except the few that were inside buildings. We even had a 3-7 minute delay between the fire starting and arriving on scene, which should have only been 30-45 seconds for a track side fire crew.

andrave
andrave Reader
9/21/09 10:33 a.m.

none of the parking lot drift events I've been to had fire crews on hand except for the ones that were done at a track.

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