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Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
1/30/15 10:13 a.m.

Seems that the new numbers might be out

http://jalopnik.com/2016-mazda-miata-will-have-155-hp-148-pound-feet-of-to-1682771004

If you trust Jalopnik's "journalism" its going to have 155hp and 148lb-ft and weigh 2200lbs

If I could afford a brand new car, I would really be considering it.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
1/30/15 10:14 a.m.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/30/15 10:22 a.m.

Cue inevitable whining from the internet. It could have had 250 hp, there would have been inevitable whining from the internet.

I'm waiting to see what the car's actually like, I'll judge from there. And I know a guy who likes to make them faster.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/30/15 10:24 a.m.

Its numbers are slightly better than the Fiesta ST according to poster over there, and I think that car is pretty darn fun. With RWD, it will be a blast to drive, screw the whiners.

cmcgregor
cmcgregor Reader
1/30/15 10:25 a.m.

If it's really 2200 pounds, it'll be a blast. I just hope I fit in it. Buying a brand new car then immediately tearing out the seats is not high on the list of things I want to do, and isn't even on the list of things SWMBO will let me get away with.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
1/30/15 11:13 a.m.

Cue whining from Miata.net, the people who love the 1.6 miata that weighed.... what's that? About 2200lbs and made.... 47.9whp or whatever it is those turds make?

KyAllroad
KyAllroad Dork
1/30/15 11:17 a.m.

Only 100 or so pounds heavier than my '97 which puts down a ground shaking 115 hp at the rear wheels. Yeah, 155 ponies really should be enough to more than get one into trouble.

clutchsmoke
clutchsmoke Dork
1/30/15 11:26 a.m.

Having just drove my father's 2014 Mazda 3 6spd manual w/ 155hp I think the miata will be a riot.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/30/15 11:36 a.m.

R&T drove it and was pretty happy. They confirm 2200 lbs, which is a lot less than I'd expected. I was anticipating more like 2400.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/news/a24888/first-drive-2016-mazda-mx5-miata/

Hey, GRM, when you get your hands on one, I'm happy to swing by and put in my two cents

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/30/15 11:39 a.m.

There are some cars you don't like the looks of at first, that you warm up to later. For me this is the opposite of one of those cars.

Did it always have the Lamborghini-esque hood shut line? And if you use your hands to make a play-telescope and look at the front quarter area around the wheel and headlight, you'd swear you were looking at a car designed by Chris Bangle.

The car is technically brilliant which only makes the disappointing looks more upsetting to me.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk UltraDork
1/30/15 11:43 a.m.

Since I use my Miata for back road cruising at 50-60 mph, 155 horses ought to be more than enough. It's at least 10% more than my current ride.

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/30/15 11:47 a.m.

Sure, I'd like more power, but 155hp in a 2200 lb car shouldn't be that bad. Most LBC's back in the day had 100hp at best right? The styling looks bang on to me. (the NC was fugly). Now to find a way to get rid of that screen in the dash....

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy SuperDork
1/30/15 11:47 a.m.

Best of luck... (avoiding the complainers) As long as the torque curve is(looks) more like a table, and less like a conehead, it should be pretty fun...

now in no way am I equating my cars handling to a 2015 Miata... but I'm in that 2200# area, and I'm pushing 170hp... but with 15#/ft LESS torque. So... again as long as that torque curve is more flat then curved... it should put smiles on faces

T.J.
T.J. PowerDork
1/30/15 11:48 a.m.

I like it. It is less HP than my MSM. I want to see one in person, but I think I like the looks.

Petrolburner
Petrolburner Reader
1/30/15 11:50 a.m.

I'm warming up to the looks. I get the feeling that it doesn't photograph well, once I can walk around one and drive it I'll be able to make up my mind. I applaud Mazda for returning to their lightweight roots.

Harvey
Harvey GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
1/30/15 12:02 p.m.

I like the looks. Nothing about them bothers me. To each their own. R/T article it will weigh slightly more than 2205lbs it weighs with the 1.5 with the 2.0 motor in it.

Driven5
Driven5 HalfDork
1/30/15 12:02 p.m.

That's not so much Jalopnik's journalism, as it is driving.ca's journalism. While they may or may not be correct, it's far from official enough for me to believe yet.

Also consider that the new Miata also has a 7500rpm redline, where as the 155hp engine in the Mazda 3 has a 6800rpm redline. That last 700rpm would be quite a disappointment if the engine hasn't been uprated from the Mazda 3 spec at all, and the driving.ca report indicates no such falling flat on its face in the upper rev range. So it kind of makes me want to call 'shenanigans' on these 155hp claims...Of course I did the same thing on the GT350 getting a flat plane crank too, and we all know how that worked out.

Not that a few hp either way matters much once I get behind the wheel. At that point it's simply a matter of how big of a smile it does, or doesn't, put on my face.

NOHOME
NOHOME UltraDork
1/30/15 12:23 p.m.

Needs more power.

What the berkeley for I have no idea but I want to get in on the bandwagon before it full!

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk UltraDork
1/30/15 12:35 p.m.
Petrolburner wrote: I'm warming up to the looks. I get the feeling that it doesn't photograph well, once I can walk around one and drive it I'll be able to make up my mind. I applaud Mazda for returning to their lightweight roots.

I thought it looked better in person than in photos, largely because the pictures are done from a lower angle than I view the car standing near it. It's not "OMG' beautiful, but it a very,very nice looking car.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
1/30/15 12:41 p.m.
T.J. wrote: I like it. It is less HP than my MSM. I want to see one in person, but I think I like the looks.

And 300lbs+ less weight.

tomtomgt356
tomtomgt356 GRM+ Memberand New Reader
1/30/15 12:48 p.m.
Keith Tanner wrote: Cue inevitable whining from the internet. It could have had 250 hp, there would have been inevitable whining from the internet.

It would be better with a rotary...

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand UberDork
1/30/15 12:48 p.m.

With those power figures, it will probably still only require 87 octane. That pleases me.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/30/15 12:51 p.m.

I think they look great in person. And it's a whole lot easier to add power than it is to pull weight from a car without compromising it, so that makes for a better base for modification.

I want to feel the character of the new engine. I've always found the MZR in the NC to be fairly bland, the old BP was more interesting. Hopefully this one will have some sparkle to it. Lots of compression is a good start.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
1/30/15 12:51 p.m.

Ok just read the article. Sounds like they gave it the full Skyactive treatment. I like.

MY BODY IS READY

nderwater
nderwater PowerDork
1/30/15 12:52 p.m.

Video reviews are starting to come in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpYuWNxZx8c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=780h_oLMdLk

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