alfadriver wrote: As for the trend to small cars, the CAFE requirements are real. What that really means for size and weight will be interesting (I don't actually know- I'm a powertrain person).
Unfortunately, the footprint portion of the CAFE requirements encourages manufacturers to build bigger and bigger cars. Smaller cars are held to more stringent standards. That's why we get the CX-5 and not the Mazda6 wagon.
Yeah, this pic really reveals a lot about the next Mustang. Not.
jstein77 wrote:
It has four wheels! What an antiquated pile of E36M3! The original horse and buggy utilized that same setup! What can't the Mustang get with modern times!?
What can't? Typed that joke just a little too quickly, huh?
The wheels aren't even a big departure, but I guess that's why they don't mind showing them, you know, other than it's hard to cover a moving tire...
Some think the Evos concept car foreshadows the next Mustang.
ReverendDexter wrote:alfadriver wrote: As for the trend to small cars, the CAFE requirements are real. What that really means for size and weight will be interesting (I don't actually know- I'm a powertrain person).Unfortunately, the footprint portion of the CAFE requirements encourages manufacturers to build bigger and bigger cars. Smaller cars are held to more stringent standards. That's why we get the CX-5 and not the Mazda6 wagon.
Not really- if you actually go through it, it means that you can't rely on small cars to make up for big cars. And big car targets are not all that easy, either.
I've been through the write up of the rules, and because it was mentioned, and there appears to be a benefit for larger cars. But that's just mis reading the rule.
We get the CX5 becuase more people buy them. The loss of wagons is more to taste than rules. It's been happening for a long time.
alfadriver wrote: We get the CX5 becuase more people buy them. The loss of wagons is more to taste than rules. It's been happening for a long time.
Bad taste! I don't get the attraction to wagons here. No one else seems to like them. To me they have the stigma of the big bloated, heavy, horrible handling, Griswold vacation wagons of my youth.
carguy123 wrote:alfadriver wrote: We get the CX5 becuase more people buy them. The loss of wagons is more to taste than rules. It's been happening for a long time.Bad taste! I don't get the attraction to wagons here. No one else seems to like them. To me they have the stigma of the big bloated, heavy, horrible handling, Griswold vacation wagons of my youth.
and while that is not the truth for a lot of sporty wagons, it's pretty spot on for the public preception of wagons.
I am interested and impatiently awaiting the surprises Ford has laying around for its 50th anniversary car.
The "air exhaust" they're talking about isn't related to the engine, it's a pair of exhaust vents for the front wheel wells.
alfadriver wrote:carguy123 wrote:and while that is not the truth for a lot of sporty wagons, it's pretty spot on for the public preception of wagons.alfadriver wrote: We get the CX5 becuase more people buy them. The loss of wagons is more to taste than rules. It's been happening for a long time.Bad taste! I don't get the attraction to wagons here. No one else seems to like them. To me they have the stigma of the big bloated, heavy, horrible handling, Griswold vacation wagons of my youth.
Minivans and SUVs are much, much better.
Streetwiseguy wrote: Minivans and SUVs are much, much better.
Not better or worse, just different. Unfortunately most buyers use them for mostly overlapping purposes.
I've seen it written numerous times that to meet modern day rules & regs, both here & abroad, the cars will never be as small or as light again.
I really dont get that. There are plenty of cars on the market today that are smaller than the original mustang and still probably do miles better in crash tests and every other form of regulated behavior a car can have.
I think the reason why we wont get RWD cars as small as they were back then is because it's too expensive to have a dedicated platform on anything other than a halo car, and there are no other small RWDs to share platforms with because RWD is 100% pointless (and counterproductive as far as cost) for every vehicle that doesnt stake its life on sales to 'enthusiasts'.
forzav12 wrote: Considering the Lambo Aventador vert weighs about 4200lbs-the Mustang at 3700 or so doesn't look too bad.
Ahhh, someone who reads Car and DRiver, or Road and Track.
Go do some research, the Aventador vert is 1625kgs, which is only 50kg heavier than the coupe.
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