New Nissan GT-R Revealed

Kanaric, I'm with you. Started out with Japanese cars, and that's all we have currently but what I've pondered recently is German or American. And if I were gonna spend GTR money, I'd be getting a Porsche GT car or a Viper instead. Like you, I still like the older stuff, want to build a 240Z someday, FD3S RX7 would be awesome, hell I even have a budding Japanese watch obsession etc etc. The companies have just gone in weird directions and been left in the dust for sporty cars. I love Mazda but I hope they can use their success with appliances to build some more exciting cars.

Klayfish wrote:

racerdave600 wrote: A buddy has driven a GTR in a few One-Laps. I think they placed second in a very stock version a couple of years ago. He's an ex professional racer and proclaimed it was by far the best street car he's ever driven. This comes from someone that's not only raced professionally M3's, Porsches, etc., but also taught at Ferrari track days, etc. They tested the new track version GTR a few weeks ago and said it was phenomenal as well. As for the price, look at what you'd have to pay for a Porsche, Audi, or a Ferrari with performance that is not even as good. I'm not a fan of the way it looks, but there is no denying that it is a league almost by itself in terms or price and performance.

Interesting, I guess a lot of it is personal taste. I've never driven the GT-R, so I don't have first hand experience to draw from. But a buddy is the lead instructor for Xtreme Xpereince and when I asked him and the other instructors about it, they were pretty lukewarm about it. They all said it's fast, but cars like the GT3 and Huracan are more fun. He said it's mostly the Fast-N-Furious and video game crowd that runs the GT-R. They all said it's big and heavy and feels that way.

Performance numbers and fun don't always go together. In his world, winning is all there is, period. Whatever tool it is that accomplishes that is what he wants. For a street car in something like the One Lap, right now that is a GTR. They've tested other cars, and the GTR simply blows them into the weeds in terms of lap times. Back when we ran the Supra, I'm sure there were cars such as the M3 that were more fun, but we collected the hardware while they had possibly more fun.

Me personally, for the same money I would have a fleet of "lesser" cars with the engine in the correct location.

WOW Really Paul? wrote:

Craig_F wrote: If you have to keep telling people how cool your car is, maybe it's not that cool. That's the biggest issue with the GT-R. The owners keep telling everyone they "don't get it".

After getting the opportunity to drive one, I personally found the thing to be quite lacking. Most notably, it seemed like the cars are either all gingers lacking souls or they sold their souls to the devil to be as fast as they are. They are fast, but the biggest annoyance is all the electronics really can make the driver out to be much better than they actually are.

My biggest complaint about any of the GT-Rs... it's all electronics.

Miata RF? Grm forum is all excited.

Nissan GTR? Grm forum is underwhelmed.

The contrasting moods of the two threads amuses me.

Spend my money elsewhere.

Probably Z06 or Viper. Or used "lesser" cars

This reminds me of the autocross I attended where some guy showed up in his viper, parked all the way across the lot from the grid and did not participate in any of the festivities. No one cared. We were there to have fun not ogle over someone's "really fast car". Life goes on.

BlueInGreen44 wrote: Miata RF? Grm forum is all excited. Nissan GTR? Grm forum is underwhelmed. The contrasting moods of the two threads amuses me.

You are surprised? The GT-R should be the first google self driving sports coupe.. it practically drives itself now. At leas the Miata, aside from it's mandated safety features, is still very much a seat of the pants driver's car

BlueInGreen44 wrote: Miata RF? Grm forum is all excited. Nissan GTR? Grm forum is underwhelmed. The contrasting moods of the two threads amuses me.

I wouldn't say the Miata RF was all excitement. There was a fair bit of negativity over there.