MWH
MWH None
9/18/13 2:05 p.m.

Hello dudes,

I have been thinking about buying a 240D. The 240D's legendary engine and classic look are the main reason I've been seeking out the model.

I know nothing about diesel engine maintenance / repair – but I want to learn.

Is this a car I can learn about before buying? Are there better years to be looking for? Am I crazy for considering this?

I love the car, and would be willing to sink time and money into it.

Can it function as a regular driver?

Thanks dudes.

  • Max, The Newb.
mtn
mtn UltimaDork
9/18/13 2:06 p.m.

It is the slowest thing... ever? I bet that a pair of sumo wrestlers on a tandem bike could out run the thing.

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
9/18/13 2:19 p.m.

The diesel forum at www.peachparts.com is good, I used to be very active over there. The 240D is extremely simple, reliable and slow; dangerously so with the automatic. They can keep up with traffic, but you will be flooring it. '79s are made with a lower quality steel and rust more. Both of mine have been '79s.

Great cars. Almost anything can be fixed with a hammer and socket set.

amg_rx7
amg_rx7 Dork
9/18/13 2:21 p.m.

^It's dangerously slow with the stock 4 speed manual as well.

I can't believe people actually seek these out but to each their own I guess.

Drive one to see if you can tolerate the performance.

oldtin
oldtin UltraDork
9/18/13 2:31 p.m.

My mom had one back in the early 80s. It's built like a tank, but good god, slow is not the word - glacial-like acceleration maybe more accurate.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
9/18/13 2:36 p.m.

I would recommend looking for a 5 cylinder turbodiesel instead.

Superturbodiesel.com is a good forum to learn about diesel MBs.

Sonic
Sonic SuperDork
9/18/13 2:54 p.m.

Having had 240d and 300d models in the family since 1980, there is no reason at all to get a 240d when the 300d turbo exists.

The 240 is agonizingly slow all the time, even with the manual transmission. The 300 turbo lets you keep up with traffic without a real problem and not run full throttle all the time, and ends up getting similar real world fuel economy as a result.

Vigo
Vigo UberDork
9/18/13 3:13 p.m.
Drive one to see if you can tolerate the performance.

That is the best advice in this thread so far, and i cant think of any further advice that could top it...

The first time i ever drove one, i was flooring it out of the shop i was working in and flooring it around the tight quarters of a probably 1/8-acre parking lot and even in that small of a space i was horrified by how slow it was.

benzbaronDaryn
benzbaronDaryn Dork
9/18/13 3:18 p.m.

Weird to hear about there was a bad sheet metal run in 1979 and late 1978 I've heard that before and I believe it. European models also seem to rot worse than US ones. There is a kid who drives up and down my street who drives a 300d turbo and that little car moves.

ArthurDent
ArthurDent HalfDork
9/18/13 3:22 p.m.

I daily drive a '70 220D which has smaller bumpers and a nicer dashboard. They slow - no doubt about it but if you just mellow out behind the wheel then it isn't a big deal. Part of the issue is a really steep first gear which has you shifting to second before leaving the intersection. The earlier w115s handle a little better than the later W123s but both can change direction nicely. I even auto-x'd mine. As for what to look for I'd say rust is the biggest issue - they seem quite rot prone. Look everywhere. Fenders, in the trunk, floorboards, etc. After that mechanical condition and maintenance records.

MWH
MWH New Reader
9/18/13 3:44 p.m.

Yeah I have watched video of the car taking half a minute to get to 60mph.

But slow is okay.

Does the 300's engine have the same longevity as the 240?

MWH
MWH New Reader
9/18/13 3:45 p.m.

Thanks for all the info this forum is awesome.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill UberDork
9/18/13 3:49 p.m.

They also made a non-turbo 300D for the first couple of years (spread over two body styles). Its the 240D with one more cylinder.

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
9/18/13 5:18 p.m.
MWH wrote: Yeah I have watched video of the car taking half a minute to get to 60mph. But slow is okay. Does the 300's engine have the same longevity as the 240?

Similar reliability, but manual transmissions are rare in the non-turbocharged 300Ds and were not available with the turbo engines.

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