John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/8/08 7:44 a.m.

OK so they will be calling it a Cruze because Tome will be the companys savior or something... but I gotta say I like the looks in racer form.

http://www.motorcities.com/vehicle/08L4G424803353.html

minimac
minimac Dork
12/8/08 7:47 a.m.

There's a good reason it was unveiled in Baloney!

HiTempguy
HiTempguy Reader
12/8/08 8:04 a.m.

Um... it looks really big. Have they learned NOTHING?!

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/8/08 8:38 a.m.

It's funny to see "successful" and "Lacetti" in the same sentence.

fastEddie
fastEddie Dork
12/8/08 8:43 a.m.

I like the older 2-door versions better.

InigoMontoya
InigoMontoya New Reader
12/8/08 9:03 a.m.

I almost like this paint better (think it is the same car though)

Grabbed from Autoblog

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
12/8/08 9:29 a.m.

Why the F do they keep changing the name!!?!?!?!! Cobalt was actually getting to be well known as a decent little car and the SS as a great track car, WHY CHANGE IT!!!?!?!!!! And why replace it with something as stupid sounding as "Cruze" and a car that looks like it's bigger then a damn Malibu?!?!?

skruffy
skruffy Dork
12/8/08 9:36 a.m.

Worlds fastest rental car?

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/8/08 9:43 a.m.
P71 wrote: Why the F do they keep changing the name!!?!?!?!! Cobalt was actually getting to be well known as a decent little car and the SS as a great track car, WHY CHANGE IT!!!?!?!!!! And why replace it with something as stupid sounding as "Cruze" and a car that looks like it's bigger then a damn Malibu?!?!?

It only looks big, They are dimensionally identical to the Ion and the Cobalt. If you notice the quarters and rear doors are pretty much identical to Ion peices.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 HalfDork
12/8/08 4:40 p.m.

You think GM would learn from Ford's mistake when they replaced the Escort and Taurus with the 3 F cars (Fusion, Frenzy, and Flex). All the old-timers who loved those cars complained to all hell about where there Taurus went. Along came the Ford 500 and then after all the bitching was said and done Ford put the Taurus badge on it. I don't think the Escort will be coming back though.

neon4891
neon4891 Dork
12/8/08 4:43 p.m.

No, the focus seems to be doing well, despite being dumed down with each redesign

kreb
kreb GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/8/08 6:41 p.m.
it looks really big. Have they learned NOTHING
a car that looks like it's bigger then a damn Malibu?!?!?

Stupid comments. The photos have no indicator of scale. It could be as big as an ocean-liner or as small as a matchbox.

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed Reader
12/8/08 7:04 p.m.
kreb wrote:
it looks really big. Have they learned NOTHING
a car that looks like it's bigger then a damn Malibu?!?!?
Stupid comments. The photos have no indicator of scale. It could be as big as an ocean-liner or as small as a matchbox.

Agreed. I am not a lover of GM products but I think it looks OK to fairly good. Let's at least give them a chance on this one.

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
12/8/08 7:12 p.m.

I'm usually the most vocal defender of GM on this board. My point is the car looks like it's big, and as we know perception is 10/9ths the law when it comes to GM. My bigger problem is the rename. When will the idiot bean counters learn that you start ALL over every time you rename something? Ala Ford Five Hundred / Taurus. Leave it COBALT you dolts!

minimac
minimac Dork
12/8/08 7:32 p.m.

looks like a Cavalier to me.....

HiTempguy
HiTempguy Reader
12/8/08 7:48 p.m.
P71 wrote: I'm usually the most vocal defender of GM on this board. My point is the car looks like it's big, and as we know perception is 10/9ths the law when it comes to GM. My bigger problem is the rename. When will the idiot bean counters learn that you start ALL over every time you rename something? Ala Ford Five Hundred / Taurus. Leave it COBALT you dolts!

Exactly what I said. It LOOKS big. Perception is everything.

gamby
gamby SuperDork
12/8/08 8:01 p.m.
P71 wrote: Why the F do they keep changing the name!!?!?!?!! Cobalt was actually getting to be well known as a decent little car and the SS as a great track car, WHY CHANGE IT!!!?!?!!!! And why replace it with something as stupid sounding as "Cruze" and a car that looks like it's bigger then a damn Malibu?!?!?

It's still the Cobalt here. It's the Cruze in Europe. No biggie.

As for it looking big, that's just a proportions issue. The beltline is really high and the wheels aren't huge per se. The "smaller" (i.e. "normal" sized wheels make the beltline and side view seem even more chunky and slab-sided.

Props to GM for having the current Cobalt SS be such a dominant track car. The Car and Driver track comparo made it look like a really impressive car.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 HalfDork
12/8/08 9:26 p.m.
neon4891 wrote: No, the focus seems to be doing well, despite being dumed down with each redesign

I wasn't necessarily talking about the Focus as much as Ford dropping the names and the older population not recognizing the new car with new name as a replacement.

wlkelley3
wlkelley3 HalfDork
12/8/08 10:12 p.m.

Is there any significance in that it says GM-Europe? Will this be a Euro version? Or maybe just called the Cruze in Europe? Inquiring minds want to know.

Jamesc2123
Jamesc2123 New Reader
12/8/08 10:54 p.m.

GAH!! Ugliest headlight/taillight combo ever?? I don't know why so much arbitrary styling effort goes into those two pieces of a car. I know the cobalt is pretty sound mechanically but it seems many manufacturers (especially GM) seem to be more interested in the shape of the lights than petty details like...ANYTHING ELSE!! For me it does nothing. /rant sorry.

gamby
gamby SuperDork
12/9/08 12:00 a.m.
DirtyBird222 wrote:
neon4891 wrote: No, the focus seems to be doing well, despite being dumed down with each redesign
I wasn't necessarily talking about the Focus as much as Ford dropping the names and the older population not recognizing the new car with new name as a replacement.

Regardless, the new Fiesta looks like a kickass little car (Top gear just did a KILLER segment on it)

(FF to the 12 min mark, STAY ON BOARD TIL THE END!!!) http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Top-Gear-Season-12-6-Part_204044.htm

It's supposedly coming to our shores soon. This is the Ford product we need.

joey48442
joey48442 Dork
12/9/08 1:00 a.m.
gamby wrote:
P71 wrote: Why the F do they keep changing the name!!?!?!?!! Cobalt was actually getting to be well known as a decent little car and the SS as a great track car, WHY CHANGE IT!!!?!?!!!! And why replace it with something as stupid sounding as "Cruze" and a car that looks like it's bigger then a damn Malibu?!?!?
It's still the Cobalt here. It's the Cruze in Europe. No biggie. As for it looking big, that's just a proportions issue. The beltline is really high and the wheels aren't huge per se. The "smaller" (i.e. "normal" sized wheels make the beltline and side view seem even more chunky and slab-sided. Props to GM for having the current Cobalt SS be such a dominant track car. The Car and Driver track comparo made it look like a really impressive car.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/21/gm-releases-official-pics-of-2011-chevy-cruze/

I think they will be calling it the Cruze here, too.

Joey

gamby
gamby SuperDork
12/9/08 1:18 a.m.
joey48442 wrote: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/21/gm-releases-official-pics-of-2011-chevy-cruze/ I think they will be calling it the Cruze here, too. Joey

Ouch. OK--it's a cheezy name for a US market car. Sounds like a late-80's Hyundai name.

At least it's not alphanumeric. We certainly don't need another QXR200 out there.

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago GRM+ Memberand Reader
12/9/08 3:51 a.m.
gamby wrote:
DirtyBird222 wrote:
neon4891 wrote: No, the focus seems to be doing well, despite being dumed down with each redesign
I wasn't necessarily talking about the Focus as much as Ford dropping the names and the older population not recognizing the new car with new name as a replacement.
Regardless, the new Fiesta looks like a kickass little car (Top gear just did a KILLER segment on it) (FF to the 12 min mark, STAY ON BOARD TIL THE END!!!) http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Top-Gear-Season-12-6-Part_204044.htm It's supposedly coming to our shores soon. This is the Ford product we need.

The kids are being naughty, shoot them.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/9/08 7:16 a.m.

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