Greg Voth
Greg Voth Reader
9/25/09 1:18 p.m.

Faster sure. More reliable, I dunno.

Sure to piss some people off. I think its pretty cool.

Seller said: Another car has caught my eye so I am planning to sell the Rotary Porsche. It's a quick, turnkey, fun car I purchased a little over a year ago from a forum member. The paint is in good shape and the car has always been garaged. I have used the car as a weekend driver, but would not hesitate to drive cross country. Back in April I drove the car up to NC for the Deals Gap Rotary Rally and it ran great. Typically drive with the top off, but the aftermarket Targa top I purchased for the car is included... also an autopower rollbar that was never installed. Asking $8,000 for the car. Recent Videos - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpfbp_IvTW8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv9ZMTHGcQM Some details: Make: Porsche Model: 911S Targa Year: 1975 Mileage Body: Odometer shows 40.5k (5 digit odometer - could be 140k) Mileage Motor: 12,500 Engine: 1.3l 13-B Turbo out of a 1989 Turbo II RX7 (Built by RX7.com) Specs Engine built by RX7 dot com: Street port Two piece 3mm apex seals 650cc/1000cc injectors Stock turbo - 11 pounds of boost Manual boost controller 3" exhaust, Supertrapp muffler OEM Mazda oil coolers x 2 Radiator in the nose of the car - no cooling issues whatsoever Haltech E6k Garrett Liquid to air intercooler with SSQV valve 10,500 Redline Approx 325-350 horse at the crank Approx 12,000 miles on engine Kennedy engineering adapter plate for transaxle (factory 915) Car has A/C with 134a (leak in a line right by the compressor - system needs recharge) Aftermarket cruise control Autometer boost gauge Please contact me via email (JBurer@yahoo.com)

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http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=863677

amg_rx7
amg_rx7 Reader
9/25/09 1:26 p.m.

I know of JBurer. That is a very well done car.

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/25/09 2:10 p.m.

A rotary with a short as hell exhaust? Imagine the exhaust note from that whore!

Greg Voth
Greg Voth Reader
9/25/09 2:43 p.m.

Watch the YouTube videos. Sounds pretty good. Looks like a nice car for a pretty good price.

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
9/25/09 3:15 p.m.

That is a hell of a steal...I want it...

(voting for more reliable)

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/25/09 5:15 p.m.

not sure.. do the maintance on an aircooled 911 engine and do not overheat it... you can get half a million miles out of one of them without having to tear it apart.

Rotaries eat apex seals how often?

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/25/09 5:48 p.m.

In reply to mad_machine: Do the maintenance on one and do not overheat it.. . you can get half a million miles out of one without having to tear it apart!

Greg Voth
Greg Voth Reader
9/25/09 5:51 p.m.

Depends. My last motor ate something external in 10k miles. The stock one was pulled at 195,000 running perfectly with good compression.

I had a 84 GSL-SE with 283,000 on the original motor. Ran well but had a spark issue. My first RX-7 was still running at 230,000 miles when it was parted out. I have heard of many NA 13b and 12a motor go to about half a million.

Turbo Rotaries don't seem to go much over 100,000 to 150,000 before a rebuild.

CLNSC3
CLNSC3 New Reader
9/26/09 2:38 a.m.

Screw the purists, I would drive it.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
9/26/09 6:45 a.m.

I would drive it to screw with the purists

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/26/09 7:38 a.m.

Some one needs to ask this guy to come join us here at GRM. It looks like it needs some more sorting but it runs. What a really great sleeper. He will have to do something about the inter-cooler as it looks to be set to far back to get air from the vent in the rear hatch.

912 with 13B turbo

DrBoost
DrBoost HalfDork
9/26/09 8:26 a.m.

Sounds sweet

JBurer
JBurer
9/26/09 2:54 p.m.

Hello to the group,

I was linked to this thread by a fellow RX-7 enthusiast and thought I'd chime in on some of the comments. This is a great, fun little car - whoever winds up taking her home is getting a sorted, well-running, blast of a car to drive.

If I had the space (either a 3 car garage or enough ceiling height to put a storage lift in my 2 car) this car would not be for sale. I actually drove home the new car yesterday and my garage/driveway setup is as depicted in this picture:

Note the reflection.... the 1 wants it's place back in the garage!

I have a full set of pictures for this car I'd be happy to email out to interested parties if you contact me via email. I'll reply back to the specific comments below -

mad_machine wrote: not sure.. do the maintance on an aircooled 911 engine and do not overheat it... you can get half a million miles out of one of them without having to tear it apart. Rotaries eat apex seals how often?

Not the case with the 73-77 Porsche's. The engines have a notoriously short life span (~50k miles is what is often cited). Porsche increased the motor's displacement without giving it the associated cooling capacity. At the same time emissions controls gear was added that choked the motor and increased underhood temps. I believe at this time the engine casing was made of magnesium while the head studs were a different metal (aluminum?) - pulled head studs were a real issue on these cars. Thus the popularity of the engine swaps on these "mid year" cars.

No oil leaks, 2x the power, roughly the same fuel economy and less expensive to rebuild. Hard to make an argument against a swapped car.

John Brown wrote: A rotary with a short as hell exhaust? Imagine the exhaust note from that whore!

Hah! It's not as loud as you'd think with the small turbo. I think it sounds really great... my wife doesn't agree so much.

dean1484 wrote: Some one needs to ask this guy to come join us here at GRM. It looks like it needs some more sorting but it runs. What a really great sleeper. He will have to do something about the inter-cooler as it looks to be set to far back to get air from the vent in the rear hatch. 912 with 13B turbo

Joined!

Unless you're referring to some aesthetic touches or the A/C, this is a fully sorted car. Add gas and go!

Regarding the intercooler - it is a liquid:air unit with a separate radiator for the intercooler located in the front passenger wheel well. I think it works pretty well!

On the youtube video you linked - I just want to make sure everyone knows that it is not my car. That is an earlier model 912 that another person is still in the process of building. My car has been running and sorted for several years now.

CLNSC3 wrote: Screw the purists, I would drive it.

Believe it or not, the purists have been fairly welcoming towards the car! I ran into a group of 356 guys (arguably the purist's purist) on an outing several months ago and the President of the group invited me out on another cruise up into the north Georgia mountains. They put a video up of the run - you can see the yellow car several times in the video. Everyone loved it! (or at least they claimed to!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ezNa9Zad8Y

maroon92 wrote: That is a hell of a steal...I want it... (voting for more reliable)

Thanks 92 - I couldn't agree more. Just having Rotary Performance build a motor and tune the Haltech would cost more than $8,000!!

Greg Voth
Greg Voth Reader
9/26/09 9:43 p.m.

Thanks for joining. I love the car. I remember wanting it when it was for sale in Texas. Now I want it even more.

If my RX-7 was totalled tomorrow the insurance paid out it would be on my short list. (This, 1st Gen RX-7 with a T2 swap, GTO, CTS-V, or MS3)

Post up some pics. I am sure everyone would love to see it and the new purchase.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
9/26/09 9:48 p.m.

welcome to a fellow rotor head, mate that car rocks, if I could find a way to do this it would be mine

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/26/09 9:52 p.m.
JBurer wrote:
mad_machine wrote: not sure.. do the maintance on an aircooled 911 engine and do not overheat it... you can get half a million miles out of one of them without having to tear it apart. Rotaries eat apex seals how often?
Not the case with the 73-77 Porsche's. The engines have a notoriously short life span (~50k miles is what is often cited). Porsche increased the motor's displacement without giving it the associated cooling capacity. At the same time emissions controls gear was added that choked the motor and increased underhood temps. I believe at this time the engine casing was made of magnesium while the head studs were a different metal (aluminum?) - pulled head studs were a real issue on these cars. Thus the popularity of the engine swaps on these "mid year" cars. No oil leaks, 2x the power, roughly the same fuel economy and less expensive to rebuild. Hard to make an argument against a swapped car.

See, that I didn't know. I had a 72 911 with the 2.4. Was a great little sports car, but being 22 at the time, I was not exactly sympathetic towards it's needs and wound up breaking a couple of rocker arms. At least I sold it for what I paid for it.

JBurer
JBurer New Reader
9/27/09 7:08 a.m.
Greg Voth wrote: Thanks for joining. I love the car. I remember wanting it when it was for sale in Texas. Now I want it even more. If my RX-7 was totalled tomorrow the insurance paid out it would be on my short list. (This, 1st Gen RX-7 with a T2 swap, GTO, CTS-V, or MS3) Post up some pics. I am sure everyone would love to see it and the new purchase.

Thanks - glad my RX-7 friend linked me here. Am familiar with the magazine, but didn't realize there was a website as well.

The car was originally built out in Texas by a Priest (Glenn). He and I still email occasionally - if he didn't already have seven vehicles and an in progress Lotus Europa restoration, he'd have the car back in a heartbeat. I think he'd be open to speaking with the new owner of the car.

Sidenote about Texas - Glenn built the cooling system to survive the 100+ degree Texas summers. Despite the rear engine layout, cooling is not an issue on this car.

aussiesmg wrote: welcome to a fellow rotor head, mate that car rocks, if I could find a way to do this it would be mine

Thanks! When I sell this one it'll be the first time I've been rotor-less in 10 years. Some of the FD's I owned were extremely quick (two of them at 400rwhp) but I never had as much fun in them as I have in the rotary Porsche.

mad_machine wrote: See, that I didn't know. I had a 72 911 with the 2.4. Was a great little sports car, but being 22 at the time, I was not exactly sympathetic towards it's needs and wound up breaking a couple of rocker arms. At least I sold it for what I paid for it.

I'll bet that was a great car to own. Pre-emissions, mechanical fuel injection and light - if you owned the S model, it was pretty quick, too.

Until recently I didn't know much about these older Porsche's... but I understand now why there are so many followers. Fun to drive, parts are inexpensive and you can actually work on the car yourself. Can't say the same about most of the new cars today!

JBurer
JBurer New Reader
9/27/09 7:09 a.m.

PS Is it possible to attach pictures to the post, or do I have to host them elsewhere and link?

Luke
Luke Dork
9/27/09 7:22 a.m.

I could listen to that idle all day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUEcTQF4vtY&feature=related)

Awesome car, at a bargain price, too.

JBurer
JBurer New Reader
9/29/09 4:24 p.m.

Bump!

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