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GTwannaB
GTwannaB GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/1/12 2:31 p.m.

2003 Ford Focus SVT: When I first get in my car it feels like I do not have any power brakes for the first one or two stops. Then it is fine. Research indicates that it sounds like the brake booster vacuum line check valve is broken. Unfortunately the part 2M5Z-2420-CA is obsolete, no Ford dealers have the part. The vacuum line and check valve are in one solid piece and it a specific fit for the car - both ends appear to be male. It is part 2420 in this picture. I am not really sure about the best way to replace this. I am not sure it is the check valve so I don't really want to hack the thing up. Also the intake side is really loose, I suspect it is causing a bit of a vacuum leak.

Matt B
Matt B Dork
6/1/12 2:33 p.m.

It's only from '03 and there already isn't an alternative replacement part? Dang, that sucks!

...and here I am bitching about getting parts for my 86 'yota.

RossD
RossD UltraDork
6/1/12 3:01 p.m.

Can you fab something up with a check valve, a couple of nipples and some tubing?

GTwannaB
GTwannaB GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/1/12 3:27 p.m.

In reply to RossD:

I was wondering if there was much to it. Would it be OK to replace with a universal check valve? I don't know if any one would do or if I need to figure out specifics about size of the valve or vacuum hoses. The challenge is getting the fittings to the booster and intake set up correctly.

chaparral
chaparral GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/1/12 3:29 p.m.

Call Graham Ford in Columbus, Ohio for it.

They have Model A parts. They pride themselves on stocking stuff nobody else has.

GTwannaB
GTwannaB GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/1/12 3:51 p.m.

In reply to chaparral:

Unfortunately it looks like Graham Ford is also obsolete:

http://www.grahamford.com/

Keith
Keith GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/1/12 3:54 p.m.

Easy enough to see if it's the check valve - pull the tube off and do the blow/suck test. If it IS the check valve, cutting the original one out of the tube and splicing another in its place using rubber hose should do just fine.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/1/12 4:39 p.m.

We have sourced check valves for IIRC a B13 Sentra when we needed a generic inline check valve.

Yes, sucks that Ford obsoletes parts quickly. What they do is ratchet up the part cost until nobody buys them, then they obsolete them (no doubt claiming the final, hyper-inflated price as the loss on the inventory they discard).

Example: There was a simple fitting for a 4.9 van. Pipe thread in and out, and a smaller pipe thread fitting on the side. Our cost was around $125. (No, we did not buy it - we made something for under ten bucks)

3brokenhondas
3brokenhondas New Reader
6/1/12 5:09 p.m.

Google search green sales Cincinnati. They buy up lots of nos ford parts. I'd give you the number but my source cards are at work. Hope that helps

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
6/1/12 5:12 p.m.

I'd go with a universal check valve and some no E36 M3 real brake booster hose, it has to be able to handle a pretty strong vacuum. Had to do that on some old Mercedes, the plastic gets brittle and the nipple (heh heh he said nipple) breaks off.

iceracer
iceracer UltraDork
6/1/12 5:14 p.m.

I'm surprised, because the Escort and the Fiesta use the same valve. At least they look the same. It is different from the one shown.on the SVT.

T.J.
T.J. PowerDork
6/1/12 6:23 p.m.

I needed a new blend door for the rear AC in my 2001 E-150. This is a little piece of plastic. It was over $200.

Ranger50
Ranger50 SuperDork
6/1/12 6:55 p.m.
3brokenhondas wrote: Google search green sales Cincinnati. They buy up lots of nos ford parts. I'd give you the number but my source cards are at work. Hope that helps

Green Sales does NOT have it. www.greensalescompany.com

GTwannaB
GTwannaB GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/1/12 7:01 p.m.

I know I am showing my age, but I feel like when I was a kid I would be able to walk into an auto parts store and they would be able to put one together from random sources. Now I predict about a dozen trips to home depot and blank stares from the O'Reilly parts people.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy SuperDork
6/1/12 7:07 p.m.

Not even remotely surprising that a 10 year old Ford part is NLA. They are the worst in the world...other than Saab.

Hal
Hal Dork
6/1/12 7:46 p.m.

You might try Tousley Ford Parts Depot 800-328-9552. That part is still listed on their website with a price and is not marked as NLA.

Ask for Steve and tell him Hal From FocalJet gave you his name.

integraguy
integraguy UltraDork
6/1/12 8:57 p.m.

We are talking about a part for a special / hi-po model of car. Ford didn't sell HUGE numbers of SVT Focuses (Foci?) so stocking parts at every dealer would be impossible and just how long are they supposed to stock them? What I find to be strange is that this needs to be a "special" part and it isn't the same part as fitted to "normal" Focus models.

novaderrik
novaderrik SuperDork
6/1/12 10:58 p.m.

what is different about that car compared to the same part on a regular Focus? sometimes they just bend a line a little differently for some (or no) reason...

here is what came back when i googled the part number..

2M5Z-2420-CA

seems to be available..

PubBurgers
PubBurgers Dork
6/2/12 6:54 a.m.
GTwannaB wrote: I know I am showing my age, but I feel like when I was a kid I would be able to walk into an auto parts store and they would be able to put one together from random sources. Now I predict about a dozen trips to home depot and blank stares from the O'Reilly parts people.

They may have also made a living wage back then, don't expect much when auto parts and mcdonalds pay the same these days.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/2/12 7:18 a.m.

more likely it's the computers they use. While they make the parts business 1000% more efficent for 99% of the people that come in to get parts.. it is that 1% that stumps them completely

GTwannaB
GTwannaB GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/2/12 3:06 p.m.

In reply to novaderrik:

It seems as though the part is still listed on plenty of websites, but the part is not actually in stock anywhere. I will keep looking. The one Ford parts guy told me it appears to be SVT specific, probably something to do with a different intake or something.

gamby
gamby PowerDork
6/2/12 8:15 p.m.
PubBurgers wrote:
GTwannaB wrote: I know I am showing my age, but I feel like when I was a kid I would be able to walk into an auto parts store and they would be able to put one together from random sources. Now I predict about a dozen trips to home depot and blank stares from the O'Reilly parts people.
They may have also made a living wage back then, don't expect much when auto parts and mcdonalds pay the same these days.

That sums up most of why retail is turning into a wasteland over the past 5-7 years...

sethmeister4
sethmeister4 Reader
6/2/12 10:12 p.m.

Junkyard...

novaderrik
novaderrik SuperDork
6/3/12 9:47 a.m.
GTwannaB wrote: In reply to novaderrik: It seems as though the part is still listed on plenty of websites, but the part is not actually in stock anywhere. I will keep looking. The one Ford parts guy told me it appears to be SVT specific, probably something to do with a different intake or something.

get one for a non SVT model in a junkyard and see how they compare.. the parts guys only know what the computer says- that Ford made a different part for some reason, but it might be functionally identical to one off a regular car.

GTwannaB
GTwannaB GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/3/12 12:44 p.m.

OK, another question: I just spent 40 minutes trying to get that vacuum hose out of the brake booster. It is stuck in there and I cannot get that muther out of the rubber grommet. Any tricks or suggestions?

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