93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
7/26/13 4:20 p.m.

Can an old Beetle survive crap can racing with a mostly stock motor?

Cotton
Cotton SuperDork
7/26/13 4:29 p.m.

I think you would get lapped A LOT. Whether it would survive or not is hard to say. Are you going to add an additional oil cooler at least?

noddaz
noddaz GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
7/26/13 4:33 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote: Can an old Beetle survive crap can racing with a mostly stock motor?

Only one way to find out...

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
7/26/13 4:38 p.m.

In reply to Cotton:

I was figuring that would be a good idea. Just wondering what would need to be done to make one survive?

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
7/26/13 4:40 p.m.

Can't be worse than the stupid Chevette someone brought out.

I would think stuff as much brakes and tire under it as possible to carry speed into and through the corner and use the biggest motor you can find.

iceracer
iceracer UberDork
7/26/13 4:40 p.m.

Move the stock oil cooler out of the way so that #3 cylinder won't overheat and drop a valve. You should be able to run full throttle all of the race. 73 mph is kinda slow.

hobiercr
hobiercr GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
7/26/13 4:48 p.m.

There's one that runs in the SE that does well. Their site is JB Bugs. We pitted next to them at Sebring. They did an entire engine swap in 17 minutes.

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
7/26/13 5:28 p.m.

I've always thought a bug with a type 4 engine would be a good "poor man's Porsche" crap can racer. The ability to quickly swap the engine (as noted above) would be a big benefit

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/26/13 5:31 p.m.

I ran a 2.0 Porche 914 in my superbeetle. Made for one -fast- beetle.

I agree, put in a good oilcooler, maybe an deeper sump for better oilpickup and capacity, Combine that with dual carbs and a free flowing exhaust and go find out!

and brakes! Stock beetle brakes are good for -one- hard stop before you get fade

JThw8
JThw8 PowerDork
7/26/13 7:49 p.m.

There's been a few of them in the Lemons series. They do ok if you are looking to have fun and not necessarily be the fastest thing out there.

Of course you search for a cheap used adapter plate and a 13B or EJ22 and woooohoooo!

bearmtnmartin
bearmtnmartin GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
7/26/13 8:07 p.m.

They used to be pretty popular ministocks

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=475634

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
7/27/13 9:37 a.m.

Reasoning behind the madness is that I was looking at my bucket list and trying to figure out what the best way to the things on it with the fewest cars was and the Beetle seemed to be the best choice.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
7/27/13 9:38 a.m.
hobiercr wrote: There's one that runs in the SE that does well. Their site is JB Bugs. We pitted next to them at Sebring. They did an entire engine swap in 17 minutes.

Link no worky.

noddaz
noddaz GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
7/27/13 12:11 p.m.

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