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So, we're just gonna pretend that there isn't a GT-R LM on display there behind number 73? Fairly certain that's what I'm seeing there anyway, doesn't quite look like the 400M which from memory, was red. I could be mistaken on this particular example, but it is definitely not your every day R33, that's for sure!
So, we're supposed to be impressed that Kia can make a transmission that holds gears without upshifting?
If you're much of an enthusiast, you were going to buy a manual transmission in the first place, and then there's no question of unwanted upshifts.
te72 said:So, we're just gonna pretend that there isn't a GT-R LM on display there behind number 73? Fairly certain that's what I'm seeing there anyway, doesn't quite look like the 400M which from memory, was red. I could be mistaken on this particular example, but it is definitely not your every day R33, that's for sure!
You mean the Nismo 400R? They came in more colors than red, but I know what you're talking about.
I think you're right in the first place, and that's a Skyline GT-R LM in the background.
I really really want to like the Rivian, but that glow line around the hood is hard to take.
Any more details on the display model?
BluEvo210 said:So, we're supposed to be impressed that Kia can make a transmission that holds gears without upshifting?
If you're much of an enthusiast, you were going to buy a manual transmission in the first place, and then there's no question of unwanted upshifts.
Shhhhhhhhhh, let people enjoy things. 
z31maniac said:BluEvo210 said:So, we're supposed to be impressed that Kia can make a transmission that holds gears without upshifting?
If you're much of an enthusiast, you were going to buy a manual transmission in the first place, and then there's no question of unwanted upshifts.
Shhhhhhhhhh, let people enjoy things.
Not to mention that most new cars don't offer a manual trans anymore. But hey, hate away.
RevRico said:I really really want to like the Rivian, but that glow line around the hood is hard to take.
Any more details on the display model?
Here's the bare chassis:
bobzilla said:z31maniac said:BluEvo210 said:So, we're supposed to be impressed that Kia can make a transmission that holds gears without upshifting?
If you're much of an enthusiast, you were going to buy a manual transmission in the first place, and then there's no question of unwanted upshifts.
Shhhhhhhhhh, let people enjoy things.
Not to mention that most new cars don't offer a manual trans anymore. But hey, hate away.
Yeah, I can't put the genie back inside the bottle. Know what would get more manual transmissions on the lot? More buyers.
Oh yeah, if possible, do one of the available tours. I got to tag along with Thursday evening's tour. It was a great chance to walk the show without the crowds and with an expert.
I’d love to get on the list for a new Speedster, but I imagine the list at my local dealer is already long. Checking....
edit: scratch that, I just saw the MSRP!
David S. Wallens said:bobzilla said:z31maniac said:BluEvo210 said:So, we're supposed to be impressed that Kia can make a transmission that holds gears without upshifting?
If you're much of an enthusiast, you were going to buy a manual transmission in the first place, and then there's no question of unwanted upshifts.
Shhhhhhhhhh, let people enjoy things.
Not to mention that most new cars don't offer a manual trans anymore. But hey, hate away.
Yeah, I can't put the genie back inside the bottle. Know what would get more manual transmissions on the lot? More buyers.
Ding ding ding.
But we all know that it's a conspiracy against enthusiasts that no manufacturer makes an AWD, 6spd wagon, that gets 40mpg, has 400hp, and is only $14,999 MSRP.
See also: Subaru Legacy GT wagon with a six-speed manual.
Everyone said that they'd buy one. The reviews were amazing. Actual number of units sold? Like six. Maybe seven.
Cotton said:I’d love to get on the list for a new Speedster, but I imagine the list at my local dealer is already long. Checking....
edit: scratch that, I just saw the MSRP!
Oh yeah, not a cheap date. In addition to the GT3 engine (with individual throttle bodies), the Speedster gets a lot of bespoke hardware, including the carbon front fenders and hood. The body in white is unique to that model, too. On the plus side, the car's value will only go up, up, up.
I wish I’d known about those tours sooner. I’m going to book one next year.
I'm going tomorrow. I've been going almost every year since 2003. I never go expecting to get excited about anything, but occasionally I am surprised.
David S. Wallens said:Cotton said:I’d love to get on the list for a new Speedster, but I imagine the list at my local dealer is already long. Checking....
edit: scratch that, I just saw the MSRP!
Oh yeah, not a cheap date. In addition to the GT3 engine (with individual throttle bodies), the Speedster gets a lot of bespoke hardware, including the carbon front fenders and hood. The body in white is unique to that model, too. On the plus side, the car's value will only go up, up, up.
I ended up checking with the local dealer anyway. He said the list is already 7 deep, they MAY get one allocation, MSRP is ~275k and they expect it to bring 100k over sticker. Damn.
David S. Wallens said:bobzilla said:z31maniac said:BluEvo210 said:So, we're supposed to be impressed that Kia can make a transmission that holds gears without upshifting?
If you're much of an enthusiast, you were going to buy a manual transmission in the first place, and then there's no question of unwanted upshifts.
Shhhhhhhhhh, let people enjoy things.
Not to mention that most new cars don't offer a manual trans anymore. But hey, hate away.
Yeah, I can't put the genie back inside the bottle. Know what would get more manual transmissions on the lot? More buyers.
I blame the rest of you. My last three daily drivers have been purchased brand-new, with manual transmission. I'm doing my part ;)
Gold star for Irish.
While at the show, I was talking to the PR person for a company that offers a sporty car that's big in our world. They had just released a special edition model and were looking at the sales figures: 85 percent automatic, 15 percent manual.
What the what?!
Reporting error. In reality, the take rate was 85 percent manual.
Whew.
irish44j said:David S. Wallens said:bobzilla said:z31maniac said:BluEvo210 said:So, we're supposed to be impressed that Kia can make a transmission that holds gears without upshifting?
If you're much of an enthusiast, you were going to buy a manual transmission in the first place, and then there's no question of unwanted upshifts.
Shhhhhhhhhh, let people enjoy things.
Not to mention that most new cars don't offer a manual trans anymore. But hey, hate away.
Yeah, I can't put the genie back inside the bottle. Know what would get more manual transmissions on the lot? More buyers.
I blame the rest of you. My last three daily drivers have been purchased brand-new, with manual transmission. I'm doing my part ;)
Not my last three DD's, but the last 3 cars I've purchased new, have all been manual.
I've only bought one car new, but it is a manual. And I still have it. That was also 16 years ago. 
My ex- is better. Of the 4 cars she bought new over the past 20+ years, all have been manuals. Right now, all 5 of her cars are manuals. I also have 5 manual cars, but also 3 automatics (including one parts car).
BluEvo210 said:te72 said:So, we're just gonna pretend that there isn't a GT-R LM on display there behind number 73? Fairly certain that's what I'm seeing there anyway, doesn't quite look like the 400M which from memory, was red. I could be mistaken on this particular example, but it is definitely not your every day R33, that's for sure!
You mean the Nismo 400R? They came in more colors than red, but I know what you're talking about.
I think you're right in the first place, and that's a Skyline GT-R LM in the background.
Durr, yes, 400R, my mistake. These hours at work are affecting my memory, evidently. Fairly certain it's the LM on display there though, straight out of many an hour spent playing the Gran Turismo series for me. Blue lipped wheels, blew my mind as a kid, to consider that was even a possibility. Plus, that thing was menacingly wide, wouldn't surprise me a bit if those rear fenders were related to the JGTC cars.
David S. Wallens said:Gold star for Irish.
While at the show, I was talking to the PR person for a company that offers a sporty car that's big in our world. They had just released a special edition model and were looking at the sales figures: 85 percent automatic, 15 percent manual.
What the what?!
Reporting error. In reality, the take rate was 85 percent manual.
Whew.
I really hope that gets corrected in the PR world or that car is doomed the next cycle...
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