Worst drivers in the country.
I knew it wasn't just my imagination. While the state wasn't the worst, the city managed to secure it
EverQuote says Pennsylvania drivers didn’t rank well either, the state came in at 48, ahead of only Connecticut and Rhode Island. The survey found that Pennsylvanians were speeding 47 percent of the time, and using their cellphones 37 percent of the time.
I think 37% is a bit low honestly.
Ranking is automatically suspect because Delaware isn't one of the worst.
And speeding doesn't make you a bad driver
Clearly they haven't been to Cincinnati.
The only criteria they judged on that necessarily makes people 'bad' drivers is handheld cell phone usage while driving. So called "aggressive" driving (speed, acceleration, braking, and cornering) does not inherently make people bad or unsafe drivers. Many of the worst and most dangerous drivers in WA are people that are excessively slow in all phases of driving, and totally inconsiderate/inattentive as to how/when/where they do so.
The only reason we're on there for "speeding" is because you can idle past the speed limit in most areas. Still very much stuck in the 1950s.
Compared to pretty much every where I've ever been, people are really really bad here. No one pays any attention to actually driving, turn signals, yield signs, red lights, these are foreign incomprehensible things.
In reply to Driven5:
So true. So true.
Zomby Woof wrote: And speeding doesn't make you a bad driver
Well, we may all like to think that, but according to the NHTSA statistics, "too fast" is the 2nd leading critical cause for crashes. (behind inadequate surveillance and above internal distraction). I did add too fast for conditions and too fast for curve into one "too fast" category.
https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/811059
pg 25
EDIT: the stats would tend to agree with Driven5, as only 1.5% of crashes are attributed to "aggressive driving".
p.s. I agree with this report. Pittsburgh is the worst place I have driven (and I have spent years working as a consultant and a salesperson driving in many many many cities).
In Pittsburgh I especially notice that people merge onto the highway violently and with little regard to traffic on the highway. Can't explain it but it happens all the freaking time.
RevRico wrote: Compared to pretty much every where I've ever been, people are really really bad here. No one pays any attention to actually driving, turn signals, yield signs, red lights, these are foreign incomprehensible things.
Been that way since I got my license in 1959. Grew up Irwin and lived there until 1966, took the license test in Greensburg.
Robbie wrote: In Pittsburgh I especially notice that people merge onto the highway violently and with little regard to traffic on the highway. Can't explain it but it happens all the freaking time.
Which is worse? The Pittsburgh way or the MD way of trying to merge into 65 mph traffic at 40 mph.
Robbie wrote: In Pittsburgh I especially notice that people merge onto the highway violently and with little regard to traffic on the highway. Can't explain it but it happens all the freaking time.
There's lots of short on-ramps around Pittsburgh, so you either punch it or get run over.
Having driven in both Pittsburgh and central Florida, I refuse to believe it.
I live in Philly and was blown away at the road rage in Pitt when I was there for an interview a few months ago. I'm not even surprised, and it explains why Uber ATC (which is where I interviewed) chose the spot.
For the record, didn't take the job. Talk about high-and-mighty attitudes.
That distinction is about twenty years late. Pittsburgh drivers were that bad back then but now every surrounding county is just as bad.
The on-ramp yield thing is true. Wonder what kind of people can wreck on a perfectly straight piece of road? They can.
In reply to Hal:
No kiddin, SWMBO is from Irwin area.
The short on ramps are terrible out that way, I79 in particular has some HORRENDOUS ones.
Speed limits are also generally hilariously low statewide, as Rev mentions. Roads that would easily be 45-55mph limit in most other states I've been are 30-35 here. Anyone actually driving that speed is a) an shiny happy person and b) getting passed over a DY at the first available opportunity.
Robbie wrote:Zomby Woof wrote: And speeding doesn't make you a bad driverWell, we may all like to think that, but according to the NHTSA statistics, "too fast" is the 2nd leading critical cause for crashes. (behind inadequate surveillance and above internal distraction).
That's because "too fast", "inadequate surveillance", and "internal distraction" all fall under the same category. They're all forms of "operator error", and are basically the same reasoning as "pilot error" being cited in the vast majority of airplane crashes...However, 'speeding' is by no means inherently the same thing as going 'too fast'.
Furious_E wrote: In reply to Hal: The short on ramps are terrible out that way, I79 in particular has some HORRENDOUS ones.
The big reason is that most of the major roads in the area were built after the area was already built up. Thus not much room to make longer on-ramps.
Driven5 wrote:Robbie wrote:That's because "too fast", "inadequate surveillance", and "internal distraction" all fall under the same category. They're all forms of "operator error", and are basically the same reasoning as "pilot error" being cited in the vast majority of airplane crashes...However, 'speeding' is by no means inherently the same thing as going 'too fast'.Zomby Woof wrote: And speeding doesn't make you a bad driverWell, we may all like to think that, but according to the NHTSA statistics, "too fast" is the 2nd leading critical cause for crashes. (behind inadequate surveillance and above internal distraction).
I agree. I've been "Speeding" in California on this road trip. These people fly at 75-80mph 24/7. Even the C.H.I.P.'s are hauling ass. The accidents occur with the morons not using indicators and Changing lanes every five seconds. It's not speed that kills, its stupidity.
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