ReverendDexter wrote: REALLY glad to see 17s as the wheel size.
I'd be glad-er to see 15... or 14. I know, I know. Man, I sound like an old dude more and more every day. I remember when 16" wheels were considered HUGE.
ReverendDexter wrote: REALLY glad to see 17s as the wheel size.
I'd be glad-er to see 15... or 14. I know, I know. Man, I sound like an old dude more and more every day. I remember when 16" wheels were considered HUGE.
fast_eddie_72 wrote:ReverendDexter wrote: REALLY glad to see 17s as the wheel size.I'd be glad-er to see 15... or 14. I know, I know. Man, I sound like an old dude more and more every day. I remember when 16" wheels were considered HUGE.
Same here! My first car had upgraded 15" chrome wheels.
fast_eddie_72 wrote:ReverendDexter wrote: REALLY glad to see 17s as the wheel size.I'd be glad-er to see 15... or 14. I know, I know. Man, I sound like an old dude more and more every day. I remember when 16" wheels were considered HUGE.
But, if you were really old you'd say:
'What's with all these little wheels on autocars these days?' 
I don't mind what size the wheels are as long as it matches the rest of the car aesthetically; which, in this case, I think looks fine.
"2,689 pounds and a standard tire size will be 215/45R17"
Hey, look at that, the weight went up! Sneaking in ho-hos again I see...
Javelin wrote: "2,689 pounds and a standard tire size will be 215/45R17" Hey, look at that, the weight went up! Sneaking in ho-hos again I see...
actually... that is the "less than 300hp" that was suggested earlier
In reply to CarRamRod:
And Mk 4 Supras and all varieties of the Lexus IS also had short-arm long-arm front suspensions. A lot of cars used to have double wishbone front suspensions that had considerable worse geometry than struts.
fast_eddie_72 wrote:ReverendDexter wrote: REALLY glad to see 17s as the wheel size.I'd be glad-er to see 15... or 14. I know, I know. Man, I sound like an old dude more and more every day. I remember when 16" wheels were considered HUGE.
Honestly, I'd like to see a return to smaller wheels, too. But right now the tire selection is a lot better for 17s than it is for 15s/16s. Plus, stock 17s means that it'll have brakes that I'd never need to even think about upgrading.
The0retical wrote: Shamelessly stolen in the GRM fashion22" shorter than Mustang GT. Yea the rear seats aren't only for insurance purposes or anything.
Wow, this a good graphic and now I am excited.
I wish there was a website that was a database of vehicle images and let you choose any vehicle and compare dimensions in this fashion
Javelin wrote: "2,689 pounds and a standard tire size will be 215/45R17" Hey, look at that, the weight went up! Sneaking in ho-hos again I see...
That weight figure is for the Subaru version, which is probably a little bit upscale (and therefore heavier) than the Toyota/Scion model.
ReverendDexter wrote:fast_eddie_72 wrote:Honestly, I'd like to see a return to smaller wheels, too. But right now the tire selection is a lot better for 17s than it is for 15s/16s. Plus, stock 17s means that it'll have room in the wheels to house the bigger brakes I will eventually need to upgrade to because the pansy stockers cant stop the grippy 17" tires I installed which result in a longer lever-arm Im trying to keep from rotating when Im trying to slow downReverendDexter wrote: REALLY glad to see 17s as the wheel size.I'd be glad-er to see 15... or 14. I know, I know. Man, I sound like an old dude more and more every day. I remember when 16" wheels were considered HUGE.
FTFY
ProDarwin wrote:rotard wrote:Agreed.Taiden wrote: PAYMENTS.Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!
And therein lies the problem. 
I want one, but I want it to be green or traffic cone orange.
Most importantly... for the autocross nerds among us... is what Stock class will it be in??? 
Discussions on SCCAforums seem to range from CS to DS to ES, with DS being most likely.
Anybody know what kind of fuel mileage it's supposed to get?
Taiden wrote:ProDarwin wrote:And therein lies the problem.rotard wrote:Agreed.Taiden wrote: PAYMENTS.Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!
You have to pay to play. Don't want payments? Break the piggybank or wait a few more years.
Ian F wrote: Most importantly... for the autocross nerds among us... is what Stock class will it be in???
IMHO, it should be with the Miata.
But I know those over at Miata.net will have a fit to cross the MiataS class. And the MiataSP class.
Similar enough to be a good start.
BTW, with the buying talk- what's the numbers for the subie vs. the yota version- 50/50, or more yota? And I mean YOU- posters here.
And no need to actually plan to buy one. Just curious what the current breakdown is.
Yota here.
Trying to figure out why... but it's purely on looks. Something just seems "better" to me about it.
The Subie STi version made me slightly ill.
alfadriver wrote: IMHO, it should be with the Miata. But I know those over at Miata.net will have a fit to cross the MiataS class. And the MiataSP class. Similar enough to be a good start.
Which Miata? Newer (NB/C C-Stock) or older (NA in E-Stock)?
After reading the whole thread on SCCAforums, it seems the current thought is the suspension and wheel size would be limiting factors against current CS cars and thus woefully outclassed, and "too expensive" for E-Stock (where a ratty n/a 944 is considered expensive). That sort of leaves DS where it might do ok.
I'm still waiting to decide which one I like better when I see them both in person. This is of course assuming all things other than looks being equal.
mtn wrote: I'm still waiting to decide which one I like better when I see them both in person. This is of course assuming all things other than looks being equal.
Agreed. They should be at the NYIAS in 2012, hopefully with a few open to fondle. 
jrw1621 wrote:The0retical wrote: Shamelessly stolen in the GRM fashionWow, this a good graphic and now I am excited. I wish there was a website that was a database of vehicle images and let you choose any vehicle and compare dimensions in this fashion
Seems like Tire Rack should be able to do this. They've got the image database as part of their wheel thingy. Use the stock wheel size (probably also in that database) to scale the images.
Toyota or Subaru for my mythical purchase? Too soon to tell. It's the same car, so it comes down to the details.
In reply to Ian F:
New. When the NA's branched off, I wasn't a big fan of that, which has resulted in NA-S class, as I thought it would.
I would still think CS will work fine. But that's just me.
Ooo, looks like it's not hard to extract the images from the Tire Rack site, and they're logically named. Meet BMW/M5_00/M5.18.Titanium_Silver.gif...
alfadriver wrote: In reply to Ian F: New. When the NA's branched off, I wasn't a big fan of that, which has resulted in NA-S class, as I thought it would. I would still think CS will work fine. But that's just me.
Maybe... hard to really know for sure until the car is in public hands and can be fondled by serious auto-crossers. Too many unknowns right now: how big a tire can fit? Camber bolts? Gearing?
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