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Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Digital Experience Director
12/15/18 12:19 p.m.
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We usually don't bother discussing the specifics of project car acquisition. After all, you're here to read about cars, not about driving around and looking at dumb things on Craigslist.

This story, though: It was too weird to not write. It's the story of how we got our latest daily driver, and it starts with a 50-year-old Mercedes parts car. …

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Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/15/18 1:33 p.m.

10 hours of labor and a lift?

 

[cackling intensifies]

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory PowerDork
12/15/18 1:37 p.m.

FYI Tom, I LOVE these kinds of stories!

(this one hits close to home too as it’s one of the several cars on my radar)

Actually, if you get tired of it, within the next few months I’ll be looking for a “new” car and I just started a fly-and-drive thread... Seriously.

nutherjrfan
nutherjrfan UltraDork
12/15/18 3:33 p.m.

If I ever get a ramp truck I with a little space I think this'd be the way I'd spend my weekends for the rest of my life. smiley

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/15/18 3:45 p.m.

Everyone I know that gets a Volvo wagon ends up with a yard full eventually. Then they end up fixing the parts cars and driving them. 

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/15/18 6:33 p.m.

In reply to dean1484 :

No way, that never happens. I only have 6 Volvos in my yard, it isn't nearly full yet. cheeky

bigdaddylee82
bigdaddylee82 UltraDork
12/15/18 6:48 p.m.
dean1484 said:

Everyone I know that gets a Volvo wagon ends up with a yard full eventually. Then they end up fixing the parts cars and driving them. 

Hey now...

Stealthtercel
Stealthtercel Dork
12/15/18 8:02 p.m.

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that I am "here to read about cars, AND about driving around and looking at dumb things on Craigslist."

BTW, we'd like a follow-up on the Mercedes too, eventually, if there's a story to tell.

Billy_Bottle_Caps
Billy_Bottle_Caps Dork
12/15/18 8:36 p.m.
Stealthtercel said:

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that I am "here to read about cars, AND about driving around and looking at dumb things on Craigslist."

BTW, we'd like a follow-up on the Mercedes too, eventually, if there's a story to tell.

+ 1

noddaz
noddaz GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/15/18 8:51 p.m.

Benz+LS could have been good also.

Or is that for Frisiertes Auto magazine?

 

 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Digital Experience Director
12/15/18 10:11 p.m.

I’m glad everybody is enjoying my dumb antics! 

 

Unfortunately, there won’t be any follow-ups on the Mercedes. It went away to its new home, and was never heard from again. Probably for the best—it was really too far gone to save. 

Karl La Follette
Karl La Follette UltraDork
12/16/18 5:45 a.m.

Volvo needs tint ,nice deal on the Volvo.

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/16/18 5:55 a.m.

In reply to EvanB :

And they aren't all wagons, and I'm pretty sure some of those parts cars are not ever getting fixed.

 

(I need to remember to bring home those 9" cutoff wheels from work so I can finally harvest the A-pillar area from that 240, dang it)

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/16/18 8:15 a.m.

In reply to Knurled. :

Actually none of them are wagons anymore so I guess I am safe. 

The red 240 went to scrap. The 242 is still around but is getting scrapped in a few weeks so you'll have to do it soon. 

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/16/18 8:53 a.m.

In reply to EvanB :

Crud!  Oh well, snoozing vs. losing and all that.

 

 

Cooter
Cooter Dork
12/16/18 9:03 a.m.

Ramp Truck photos make a good story great.

Waffle House makes Ramp Truck photos Nirvana.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
12/16/18 9:35 a.m.

Your wagon reminds me of the 96 850T wagon my ex- had.  She named it Loki.  The transmission was the weak point in that car as well. It went through two during her ownership, which was about 2 years. When it ran, it was a great car. Otherwise, she was happy to see it go away. And then it died when the next owner was rear-ended and the car was totalled. 

TDLR: The only way I'd own one of these is with a manual transmission. 

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/16/18 9:56 a.m.

In reply to Ian F :

A '96 should not have had the 5 speed, IIRC.

 

The trans dipstick in the 5 speed auto is in a really bad spot.  Loss of 3rd gear usually happens on these transmissions when somebody removes what looks like a fill plug on top of the trans, but is actually a retainer for one of the bands.

 

I read an article (maybe on iATN) about a car that went through two transmissions in a row before they figured out that the guy replacing them was unbolting that band instead of filling through the dipstick with a long funnel.

 

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
12/16/18 10:54 a.m.

In reply to Knurled. :

It was an auto. From what I understand, the 850T was not sold with a manual, so a swap would need to be done.  The non-turbo was sold with a manual, but they're pretty uncommon, although I've seen (and been tempted) by a couple over the years.  We loved the car, but I'll never own an older Volvo automatic again.

We did a fluid purge on the first one. Filled through the tube. And replaced the controller. Then it finally died catastrophically and the whole trans had to be replaced - she had a local Volvo specialist do that work and he would only install remanufactured units sourced from Volvo. No - it wasn't cheap. Shortly after that we broke up and then about a year or so later it started having trans problems again so she cut her losses and sold the car cheap. Oddly enough, the Volvo was replaced with a Grand Cherokee with an auto that eventually was sold off for transmission problems as well. Then she bought the new Golf Alltrack wagon with a 6 spd mentioned in Keith's wagon thread. She's done with automatics - all 5 of her cars have manuals. 

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/16/18 11:06 a.m.

In reply to Ian F :

I meant the 5 speed auto.  Volvos had 5 speed autos (Aisin-Warner units) starting in '00-ish.  i think they used it in pretty much everything, from four cylinder S40s to the first couple years of 300hp S60Rs.  (For width reasons, IIRC the straight sixes got a GM trans - they put their mass behind the engine instead of next to it)  The same basic transmission was also used in some GM cute-utes, some SAABs, VQ-engined Nissan Maximas, and some other stuff.

 

I still think the one in my '02 S40 was the best automatic I ever had.  It did just about everything right.

Vigo
Vigo UltimaDork
12/16/18 11:18 a.m.

Can I second that this is an entertaining story and I wouldn't mind more like it?

Ive done a bunch of work on turbo whiteblocks this year, and I might cram in just a little more before the end. I even went and drove a really nice looking s60r that needed some major work, but I'm not gonna get it unless he just cant sell it to anyone else and settles for $1200 from me. cheeky

also:

Loss of 3rd gear usually happens on these transmissions when somebody removes what looks like a fill plug on top of the trans, but is actually a retainer for one of the bands.

hahahahahahahahaha  

I think that qualifies as a 'jesus bolt', eh?

sleepyhead
sleepyhead GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/17/18 10:05 a.m.

This would make an interesting Gastropod, and badwaytolive showed that “R” version is quite capable for OneLap

i.e. In for more shenanigans

JTulski
JTulski
12/17/18 7:20 p.m.

Cool story! my daily driver is a 2002 V70... it'll be interesting to see where you guys go with this one

randyracer
randyracer New Reader
12/17/18 8:44 p.m.

Volvo wagons forever.  Sold mine, but still have the Happy Moose Volvo 740 Turbo Boxy But Good sedan "race" car.  I love the 5-cyl warble of cars like your new one, Tom.  Turbo did you mention?

 

NGTD
NGTD UberDork
12/17/18 8:48 p.m.
Ian F said:

In reply to Knurled. :

It was an auto. From what I understand, the 850T was not sold with a manual, so a swap would need to be done. 

In the US.

Here is Canada we got sticks, even in the 850R!

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