sevenracer
sevenracer HalfDork
12/11/24 7:17 p.m.

Let me preface this with the fact that all of this is dumb.

My lifted Miata needs new tires and the Champiro Icepro's I bought last time are out of stock everywhere. In fact, there are slim pickin's for cheap tires in a 205/70R15.

I don't need winter tires, but that is about all I've found cheap in a 205/70-15 with a "rugged" looking tread.

The three contenders I have found in stock:

1. Premiorri Vimero All Season (which I noticed country of origin = Ukraine!)

2. Armstrong Blutrac PC all seasons

3. Sumitomo Ice Edge but in a 205/65-15.

The Blutrac's are dirt cheap at $50 each and surely a better year rounder here in the sunny South, but definitely have a normal passenger car look. The Premiorri's look a bit more rugged with blockier tread and being an all season vs winter tire are a better fit for year round use. The Sumitomo's are the closest replacement to the Champiro's.i 

I didn't know how winter tires would hold up to this usage, but the Champiro's did fine and are maybe half worn after ~6 yrs and ~12k miles, but two of them got damaged... by bears.  Like I said, this is all dumb.

 

Anyway, tires made in Ukraine, sold in US, who knew.

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) MegaDork
12/11/24 8:12 p.m.
Andy Hollis
Andy Hollis
12/11/24 10:14 p.m.

Bluetrac + sawzall = rugged for cheap.

 

You're welcome

Coniglio Rampante
Coniglio Rampante GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
12/12/24 10:42 a.m.
sevenracer said:

Let me preface this with the fact that all of this is dumb.

I'm just here for that opening line.  
 

Sounds like the first sentence of a Kurt Vonnegut novel.laugh

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 MegaDork
12/12/24 11:24 a.m.

I gave up cheap tires when I turned 30.

Life's too short to drive on cheap tires.

sevenracer
sevenracer HalfDork
1/30/25 6:58 p.m.

I know everyone has been anxiously awaiting an update on this much more than another Hollis track tire review. cheeky

I actually needed a 195/70-15, not a 205. Luckily figured that out before ordering and mounting a new set. But unluckily, that meant I found the same thing I found last time - there are aren't any all terrain's in that size, the only thing with a "rugged look" are snow tires. There were a couple of 205/70-15 options, but clearance is really tight to the unibody ahead of the rear tires, and I needed something I knew would work. I needed this car back in service and back in Charlotte.

 

Didn't want to do the snow tire thing again, so, I wound up with Armstrong Blu Trac PC All season performance tires. Boring, nondescript, very cheap passenger car tires - but 4.9 out of 5 stars on Walmart.com!

 

Found an independent mechanic to mount them up whose shop was right around the corner from all the devastation in Biltmore Village. He bought the business a month before Helene hit! Hope he makes it. We drove through the area, and man it is still a mess. Lots whose businesses were wiped clean now are where they are piling up debris. Piles of totaled cars, some looked like they spent an hour in a giant rock tumbler. Saw an SUV still half buried a few feet off the road. Pretty sobering - going to take a long time to recover/rebuild.

 

Trip home was uneventful other than the battery being so dead that it would not light the interior light and after jump started it would sag the voltage from the Alt enough to stall the car at idle. After 2.5 hours driving home, batt still dead - 24 hours on my charger's "recover" setting, and seems to be doing fine.

 

Oh almost forgot, this is about cheap tires. The guy who mounted them said to me "these are ...um, not great tires". But, you know they're better than I expected. I drove about 10 miles on really twisty roads to get to I-40, and the car handles way better than it has any right to with the 3 inch suspension lift and the tall tires. didn't squeal at all with some pretty spirited driving, and turn in is actually pretty sharp. Kinda of a testament to how good the Miata chassis is.

Anyway, if I get a couple of years and 5k miles from them, that's probably enough. Not sure of the plan for the car other than cheap commuter that is easy to park in my office's absurdly tight parking deck. I will likely pull the lift kit off at some point, but many other house and car projects in the queue ahead of that.

 

And from the "my neighbor's love me" file:

bbbbRASS
bbbbRASS Reader
1/31/25 8:06 a.m.
sevenracer said:

The guy who mounted them said to me "these are ...um, not great tires".

Glad you got it back home, and safe from the bears! Yes, it will take about as long as New Orleans took after Katrina to really have normalicy up there. 

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 MegaDork
1/31/25 8:32 a.m.

In reply to sevenracer :

Thanks for the update!
 

Only tangentially related, the Vredestein Quatrac Pro tires I put on the CX-9 over a year ago have far exceeded my expectations.  The sidewall says "Made in Hungary."  Excellent value.

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