John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/16/09 6:47 a.m.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=152809#2

Edmunds said: ASCONA, Switzerland — As crowd-pleasing rescues go, this one was stupendous. A 1925 Bugatti Brescia was pulled up from its resting place some 160 feet below the surface of Lake Maggiore, just north of the Italian border in Switzerland, and hauled onto shore. In time-honored Swiss-Italian style, the natives and a fair number of vintage-Bugatti fans celebrated the event with a party involving music and food. The rescue on Sunday, June 12, was carried out by a local marine salvage firm with the help of many volunteer helpers. The car had been in the lake since the 1960s, where it reportedly was sunk after a purchaser didn't pay the required import duties on it. The rusty remains of the car will be restored, and the car will then be sold, with proceeds going to the Damiano Tamagni Foundation, a juvenile-delinquency prevention program in the region, local media report.

914Driver
914Driver SuperDork
7/16/09 6:53 a.m.

'bout the same size as the Hunley.

NYG95GA
NYG95GA SuperDork
7/16/09 7:18 a.m.

I've heard of barn finds, but pond finds?

RossD
RossD Reader
7/16/09 7:41 a.m.

Pond find? ... Ohhhhh even more elusive...

Carrera30
Carrera30 New Reader
7/16/09 7:59 a.m.
RossD wrote: Pond find?

That's what I thought when I saw this ad:

http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1271202438.html

NOHOME
NOHOME New Reader
7/16/09 8:21 a.m.

Looks more lie it was stolen and strpped for parts.

Honestly, can anyone believe that a single part of that hulk can be re-used in a re-incarnation? There is no engine or transmision that I can see.

I do realize that as long as there is a serial number, a car can be built around it and retain its aura of being a true bugatti.

Someone is going to pay a lot of money for a car with a lot of great workmanship and zero buggatti content.

gblawson
gblawson New Reader
7/16/09 10:25 a.m.

Haha...I've seen rubber bumpered MGBs in worse shape and brought back to concours!!!!

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/16/09 10:57 a.m.

looks in relativly good shape for being parked at the bottem of a lake for almost 50 years.

And here I thought the Swiss were at the vangard of the enviromental movement?

Strizzo
Strizzo Dork
7/16/09 10:58 a.m.

hey! i've been to that lake! on the italian side though. our friends own this place in Lesa: anticomaniero.com

aussiesmg
aussiesmg Dork
7/16/09 7:03 p.m.

Pulled a few soggy stolen cars out of lakes and rivers in my day downunder, never found a Bugatti though

NYG95GA
NYG95GA SuperDork
7/16/09 7:10 p.m.
914Driver wrote: 'bout the same size as the Hunley.

An obscure reference, but I get it.

Stealthtercel
Stealthtercel New Reader
7/16/09 7:15 p.m.

To follow up what NOHOME said, a couple of decades ago I believe there was a guy in Toronto who restored, or paid for the restoration of, a Mercedes 540K. Shortly after it was finished (and I hear it was fabulous), it burned down to its wheels. He started over.

gamby
gamby SuperDork
7/16/09 7:56 p.m.

That can be restored?!

BTW--I have a fairly neat contribution to Ran When Parked (assuming the same car hasn't already been published). To whom do I send it???

ncjay
ncjay Reader
7/16/09 8:10 p.m.

This makes me wonder how much machinery is currently residing at the bottom of the Hudson. Also, who knew that car was down there and where it was?

JoeyM
JoeyM New Reader
7/16/09 8:14 p.m.
NYG95GA wrote:
914Driver wrote: 'bout the same size as the Hunley.
An obscure reference, but I get it.

odd....I got it, too, but didn't think that comparing a submerged vehicle to the hunley was obscure.

mel_horn
mel_horn HalfDork
7/16/09 8:32 p.m.
914Driver wrote: 'bout the same size as the Hunley.

or:

"OK, who's the U-boat commander?"

rob_lewis
rob_lewis Dork
7/16/09 8:45 p.m.

16 posts and nobody said:

"That'll buff out" ? Bunch of slackers!!

I never understood how you would consider whatever this becomes as being "restored". Why is rebuilding a body around a serial number considered OK, but if somebody did the same thing (aka kit car) without it, it's frowned upon.

OR, How it's illegal for me to buy a rusted out Mini and transfer the serial number to a more modern one (I'm talking before BMW took over), but this is OK?

Is my example "taboo" because I didn't do enough metal work? How many man hours of metal work does it require to become legal?

-Rob

TJ
TJ Reader
7/16/09 9:18 p.m.
mad_machine wrote: looks in relativly good shape for being parked at the bottem of a lake for almost 50 years. And here I thought the Swiss were at the vangard of the enviromental movement?

Maybe in that lake at 160 feet there isn't that much oxygen.

Unless they trapped some men inside when they sank her, I don't think it compares to the Hunley.

NOHOME
NOHOME New Reader
7/16/09 9:40 p.m.

And to prove that I know about what I speak, here is an example of a similar level of restoration that I am working on. Just hold the key where you think it belongs and build a car around it...

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2203663

Sadly, the results of my efforts will be worth a few thousand $$$ compared to some sucker that will pay a million for the recreated result of that hulk. Note how the marketing strategy has already started by creating an ambiance where the car was dumped in the lake because of tax reasons. How Romeo and Juliet! Note the media presence and internet exposure.

Reality is it was probably pushed in by the owner cause it was as reliable as a 70's Jag and he wanted to claim the insurance!

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