It's kind of long, but otherwise I'm a pro-wagon guy as well. We cross shopped against a Sonata recently and chose the Hyundai. A 6 wagon without a big price boost would have been a game changer.
It's kind of long, but otherwise I'm a pro-wagon guy as well. We cross shopped against a Sonata recently and chose the Hyundai. A 6 wagon without a big price boost would have been a game changer.
WAGONS, WAGONS, WAGONS !!!
Unfortunately, there are far too many would've, could've, should'v's applied to that market. I'd love to have the Volvo, but won't spend my money on a Chinese owned company, that only leaves a couple options for new wagon purchase next year. Sad.
In reply to Jesse Ransom :
I think every car company out there has lost their way as far as stying goes......seems like one big ugly contest.
We have sterotyped ourselves in the global market with the following characteristics, however we express our individual desires:
SUV's or trucks
Automatic, preferably CVT
Red, white, black, grey or silver
Automatic A/C, seats, locks, windows, ABS, control nannies for everything
And oh, make it electric with a 400 mile range, minimum.
That's what we have coming to us, the shapes will vary slightly.
Automobiles for the 21st century.
We have sterotyped ourselves in the global market with the following characteristics, however we express our individual desires:
SUV's or trucks
Automatic, preferably CVT
Red, white, black, grey or silver
Automatic A/C, seats, locks, windows, ABS, control nannies for everything
And oh, make it electric with a 400 mile range, minimum.
That's what we have coming to us, the shapes will vary slightly.
Automobiles for the 21st century.
I'd love to have the Volvo, but won't spend my money on a Chinese owned company, that only leaves a couple options for new wagon purchase next year.
Now that you mention it, a sizable chunk of all wagons currently for sale only exist because of China. Never thought of that!
I saw a current generation Mazda6 wagon in person the last time I was in Japan, I would love to have them available in the states.
However I also have never bought a new car in my life. So I begrudge Mazda nothing for aiming there product line up at other peoples preferences.
Mazda has been trying to make an upmarket push. A few of the European manufacturers have started selling very premium priced wagons over here. It would be interesting to see if someone else could make the idea work, in the price range Mazda aspires to play in. Obviously, there are a bunch of "crossovers" which sell well and are just slightly lifted wagons, with some cheap looking plastic tacked on and a less attractive appearance. What if Mazda (or someone) could market a sleeker vehicle profile and "no ugly flat grey plastic" to create a near-premium vehicle segment? Fashion tends to be cyclical...
In reply to Snrub :
I would love to see wagons become the aspirational choice. As much as I hate aspirational car purchases, and pretty much the word "aspirational" as well, it would be awesome for, well, you know, cars that drive well and are suitably packaged to become the mark of clued-in competence.
Jesse Ransom said:In reply to Snrub :
As much as I hate aspirational car purchases, and pretty much the word "aspirational" as well
Unrelated to the Mazda6 except longroof...
I saw a new Jag XF Sportbrake in the flesh yesterday (while driving) and it was dead sexy.
Mazda 6 Wagon, yes please. Either that or make the CX-5 available with a third pedal again. I miss my manual CX-5..!
If they sold the 6 Wagon here in the states, I'd own one right now instead of the Kia I just bought. They are beautiful, and wagons rule.
We are shopping for a Subaru Outback replacement. CVT reliability, hubs, fuel mileage, creaks and rattles. Don't want another Outback. Do want to tow a small camper <2000lb.
There are no other wagon options available below the luxury class. Many of the compact SUVs are basically wagons with higher roofs. But most won't swallow a MTB, or the roof is high enough to make it difficult for my GF to load a paddleboard on the roof racks.
Wish Honda or Toyota made an Outback-equivalent.
I have a 6 speed manual Outback but would have probably bought a Mazda 6 wagon if it were available here. Granted the Outback worked out better as we do a fair bit of soft/off roading with it. Note my experience with the Outback has been good (100K miles)
Still think the 6 wagon looks great; I asked a Mazda guy and was told given all it would take to bring it here they simply wouldn't sell enough of them.............fair answer.
MattGent said:We are shopping for a Subaru Outback replacement. CVT reliability, hubs, fuel mileage, creaks and rattles. Don't want another Outback. Do want to tow a small camper <2000lb.
There are no other wagon options available below the luxury class. Many of the compact SUVs are basically wagons with higher roofs. But most won't swallow a MTB, or the roof is high enough to make it difficult for my GF to load a paddleboard on the roof racks.
Wish Honda or Toyota made an Outback-equivalent.
VW Golf SportWagon? The Ford Fusion Active is coming and looks pretty decent despite the cladding and slight lift.
In reply to Colin Wood :
I've been begging for a wagon since the current 6 came out. Give me a wagon with the diesel and a 6-speed manual, or whatever ( I drive a Mazda 5 now and love it) and I would probably break my "avoid the first run" rule... David Tracy from Jalopnik did a review a couple years ago when he was in Europe and liked it.
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