fanfoy
Reader
5/29/13 10:20 a.m.
Looking for an SFI-rated 5-point harness. First time I'm shopping for harness', so any advice, warning, recommandations, personnal experience, etc, is welcome.
I was looking at some G-force or PRC harness. I would like to spend under 100$/harness if possible.
dinger
Reader
5/29/13 10:58 a.m.
I've been happy with this one:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rci-9210pl/overview/
Relatively cheap, plus they will re-certify the belts for another 2 years once the first 2 year cert. is up for just the cost of shipping.
I bought G-Force with the cam lock so more like $150. Happy with them so far.
Jaynen
Dork
5/29/13 11:26 a.m.
RJS is american made and quite cheap
If price is the deciding factor, G-force is probably the best option for a good SFI 5 rated harness. Keep in mind the certification and expiration dates as recertification has a cost.
Most people get 6 point harnesses at this point to try and keep the jewels intact if you happen to test how well the belts work.
Jaynen
Dork
5/29/13 11:26 a.m.
I was looking for a good prices six point but had not found one that I was sure could do wrap around mounting to the roll bar yet at a value price
I really don't like the g force cam lock. I've had it both fail to lock in and fail to release (same cam lock). It does/did live in a formula car does it does take the occasional hit off the ground. For the same money I like the Crow harness much more.
fanfoy
Reader
5/29/13 3:58 p.m.
All right, so next question:
Latch or cam?
Check with your rules.....It is a little more for a FIA rated harness, but they are often legal to use for longer. So they end up being less expensive over time. I use Gforce camlock 5 pt(fia cert) and I'm happy with it.
fanfoy wrote:
All right, so next question:
Latch or cam?
Cam is easier in every way, but if you are on dirt a lot, I guess they don't like that.
Cam allows you to plug in your lap and crotch belt....then later put in the shoulder harness. That important for integrating in hybrid head and neck restraint that hooks into the should buckles.
Jaynen wrote:
I was looking for a good prices six point but had not found one that I was sure could do wrap around mounting to the roll bar yet at a value price
I had the same concerns after purchasing some application-specific harness mounts from Brey-Krause. They were kind enough to send instructions showing how the leg straps attached properly to the lap belts. I felt like a dummy, but really appreciated it. Much prefer a 6-point to 5 for ease of mounting (many 5s are mounted incorrectly for good anti-submarining) as well as for the sake of the ol' meat-and-two-veg.
44Dwarf
SuperDork
5/29/13 8:23 p.m.
I hated the two cam units i had. For the life of me i could not get them on with out looking down meaning i could not do it with my helmet off and twice with one unit i had a tab pop out during a race. that was it with cam inits for me I'm not dieing cause some pos didn't hold. I'll take the normal stack on latch never a problem.
Remember just cause the rule book says belts are goo for two years dose not mean you should keep them for two years. Replace them after any hard hit that you feel your body hit the belts. the weave in the fabric get tight with impact and that means more load in to your body if they've been impacted before.
http://www.cmwraceparts.com/proddisp.php?pn=DRA96000
or
http://mrproducts.com/3driverrestraint-7ptrotarycamsingleandduallegwrapbolt-in-3-2-2.aspx
are good lower cost units that have sve my life more then once.
44dwarf
I'd recommend a 6-point, and a camlock.
6 point is more comfortable (IMO) and I dont' want to submarine my boys into my throat.
Camlock I've always thought works well and less hassle than latch and lock. That said, both work fine so whatever you can get for a good price, go with it.
Brand I have no real input on. If it is certified, it should work like any other.
sachilles wrote:
Cam is easier in every way, but if you are on dirt a lot,
Curious as to why you say that. I'm using an expired Shroth Profi II in my rallycross car and haven't had any issues with the camlock. And it gets very, very dirty in that car. Issue with grit getting in or something?
Jaynen
Dork
5/29/13 10:02 p.m.
Dirt tracks require latch style due to crusty mud
ddavidv
PowerDork
5/30/13 5:32 a.m.
I've used G-Force cam lock 6 points almost exclusively. I switched to another brand (I'm embarrassed to say I can't recall what) because they were HANS happier narrow shoulder belts. Hate them. The adjusters are annoying and the cam lock has far more 'false' latches than the G-Force ones ever did. Going back to G-Force after these expire.
Just as a small point, I'd consider the fact that in rallying, latching ones are NOT allowed. Probably a good reason for it, but I am unsure as to why.
Having raced for years in many different cars, I can say there is nothing whatsoever wrong with GForce FIA 6 point camlock belts. Somebody mentioned another brand that they felt was "better", I'd definitely take a look into those. Nothing "wrong" with the GForce's, and while good, much more expensive equipment out there does have a higher quality feel (but not in an appreciable way, if that makes sense). Basically, if you are hard up for cash, the GForces will work and work well. If you splurge, it's the "little things" that will be noticeable. They do work with wrapping (presumably you mean the top straps) around one of the rollcage bars.
Got an old school 5 pt in my cavalier. I'm perfectly fine with it. JohnInKansas had to teach me how to put it on properly haha!
In reply to HiTempguy:
Relative to rally
As Co-driver, I'd never run a latch and link. You have to be jumping in and out of the car so often, while juggling so much stuff in your lap it would drive me nuts. With a cam lock you can hook in one point at a time. It doesn't sound like a huge deal, but is so much quicker to get buckled up in one, that it does make a difference when you ride in the silly seat.