neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
1/5/10 1:12 p.m.

'97 9000 GSE Turbo-$4500

Thoughts on this car? I will say that if it was a hatch, I would have already bought it

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
1/5/10 1:14 p.m.

I'd wait for a hatch to come up, IMHO they're better looking and are a lot more practical.

mtn
mtn SuperDork
1/5/10 1:14 p.m.

Swedish Autos Always Break

As I get off the phone with the shop to pick up my 9-5.

I'd really like a 9000. If it were me, I'd get it. I think.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
1/5/10 1:25 p.m.

Wait for a hatch. And i like the earlier ones better as long as they still have the 2.3T. Way cheaper, same car.

81gtv6
81gtv6 GRM+ Memberand Reader
1/5/10 2:15 p.m.

I too would wait for a hatch, an Aero if possible.

tuna55
tuna55 Reader
1/5/10 2:21 p.m.

For a billion and change more, you could just buy the company!

I tried that at home:

Honey, we really need to buy Saab

Ok, what's wrong with the Volvo?

Nothing, but Saab is really cheap

Well, I guess... how much?

Around 1.6 Billion is where the bid is currently

I blacked out around here...

dj06482
dj06482 GRM+ Memberand Reader
1/5/10 2:27 p.m.

I'd never buy a Saab without some serious maintenance records (we owned a '00 9-3 for a few painful years). I think you'll find better examples on http://www.saabnet.com

M030
M030 Reader
1/5/10 2:39 p.m.

Shameless plug:

You could buy my one-owner, 56000 mile 5spd 9-5 sedan instead

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/classifieds/1730/

mtn
mtn SuperDork
1/5/10 3:00 p.m.
M030 wrote: Shameless plug: You could buy my one-owner, 56000 mile 5spd 9-5 sedan instead http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/classifieds/1730/

Shameless plug: You could by my 2002 9-5 with an engine with less than 15,000 miles on it for $4500.

procainestart
procainestart Dork
1/5/10 8:33 p.m.

That's a CSE, and is not a sedan; it's hard to tell in the pic. Saab 9000 sedans (CD models) went away in the early 90s.

Aeros are nice but make sure it's a 5-speed; autos had less power. Also, '98 (97 too??) 9000 CSE models with 5-speed had the same 225hp spec. Aeros had Recaro seats that prevent the rear seat from folding down completely, making them a bit less practical. They are fast, comfortable, and terrific on the highway but I don't think they're nearly as fun to drive as the old classic 900 (I think it has to do with the latter's double-a-arm design).

As noted above, see Saabnet.com's Classifieds, where you're likely to find decent cars with records. A buyer's inspection by a Saab indy is worth the money, and if you buy one, www.eeuroparts.com is your friend.

jhaas
jhaas New Reader
1/5/10 8:35 p.m.

didn't know they made saabs with no hatch...i thought that was their 'thing'

procainestart
procainestart Dork
1/5/10 9:12 p.m.
jhaas wrote: didn't know they made saabs with no hatch...i thought that was their 'thing'

Since the 99 "wagonback" in the mid-70s, yeah, hatchbacks were their "thing," definitely. Some people feel that one of dumber decisions Saab/GM made was to stop selling hatches.

M030
M030 Reader
1/5/10 10:09 p.m.
mtn wrote: Shameless plug: You could by my 2002 9-5 with an engine with less than 15,000 miles on it for $4500.

Interesting. How many miles on the rest of the car?

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
1/5/10 10:15 p.m.

I might try to go look at it tomarrow. If it is still around after tax time I will be in trouble. OTOH, this place doesn't update the web site very often, so it might be gone.

HappyAndy
HappyAndy HalfDork
1/5/10 10:19 p.m.
procainestart wrote: That's a CSE, and is not a sedan; it's hard to tell in the pic. Saab 9000 sedans (CD models) went away in the early 90s. Aeros are nice but make sure it's a 5-speed; autos had less power. Also, '98 (97 too??) 9000 CSE models with 5-speed had the same 225hp spec. Aeros had Recaro seats that prevent the rear seat from folding down completely, making them a bit less practical. They are fast, comfortable, and terrific on the highway but I don't think they're nearly as fun to drive as the old classic 900 (I think it has to do with the latter's double-a-arm design). As noted above, see Saabnet.com's Classifieds, where you're likely to find decent cars with records. A buyer's inspection by a *Saab indy* is worth the money, and if you buy one, www.eeuroparts.com is your friend.

^^^^ Everything he said + keep in mind that 9000s had very few of the problems that 9-5 and 9-3s suffer from, I've met many a 9-5 owner that said the 9-5 was a piece of junk compared to the 9000 that they traded. Engine sludging is rare and post 94 9000s don't have tcs systems to go bad. I've owned 3 9000s and I love them, even my wifes pokey non turbo. I actually find that the 9000s are easier to work on than c900s too.(but c900s are still more fun to drive)

mtn
mtn SuperDork
1/5/10 10:26 p.m.
M030 wrote:
mtn wrote: Shameless plug: You could by my 2002 9-5 with an engine with less than 15,000 miles on it for $4500.
Interesting. How many miles on the rest of the car?

110ish. It had the sludging problem and was replaced for free by GM. New clutch then too.

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy New Reader
1/6/10 1:52 a.m.
neon4891 wrote: '97 9000 GSE Turbo-$4500 Thoughts on this car? I will say that if it was a hatch, I would have already bought it

If you are in NY, NJ, Pa, and you need an HONEST reliable tech who KNOWS SAABs... may I suggest Sweet Motors in Kenvil N.J.

http://www.saabnet.com/tsn/faq/service/nj.html - near the bottom of the link

Jerry From LA
Jerry From LA HalfDork
1/6/10 9:56 a.m.
neon4891 wrote: I might try to go look at it tomorrow. If it is still around after tax time I will be in trouble. OTOH, this place doesn't update the web site very often, so it might be gone.

Don't worry. At $4495, it's still there. This is a car appealing to only a few folks (myself included) on the heels of the total collapse of the company that spawned it. If the car is really nice, offer $2500. If the dealer says no, raise to $2700. If the dealer still says no, walk. They'll be calling you in two weeks.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/6/10 10:46 a.m.
procainestart wrote:
jhaas wrote: didn't know they made saabs with no hatch...i thought that was their 'thing'
Since the 99 "wagonback" in the mid-70s, yeah, hatchbacks were their "thing," definitely. Some people feel that one of dumber decisions Saab/GM made was to stop selling hatches.

It was the last vestage of saabness that GM killed...

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