In reply to t25torx :
Link please .
In reply to t25torx :
Link please .
John Welsh said:In reply to t25torx :
Link please .
Ask and ye shall recieve https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/201x-classifieds/2006-mercury-milan-2000-my-daily-driver-needs-to-be-someone-elses-daily-driver/140801/page1/
volvoclearinghouse said:I have to believe there's enough of a market for used cars with row-your-own gearboxes that it really oughtn't hurt resale too badly. There's always going to be some chucklehead like the rest of us who goes into Craigslist and ticks the "Manual" box in the transmission option.
I am that chucklehead. I manually write in "stick" or "manual" when I search CL every time. I might start writing in "manuel" now too.
In reply to gunner :
You mean the "Spanish Transmission"?
volvoclearinghouse said:In reply to gunner :
You mean the "Spanish Transmission"?
Exactly
t25torx said:I am feeling the pain of this right now, trying to sell my very nice DD Milan with a stick. It would appear no one wants a low end "luxury" sedan with a stick. Even for $2000 I cant move this thing. I don't know if its just a slow economy overall or if the curse of the stick is hurting me pr a combo of both.
One of you wierdos should buy it for a winter beater.
The Mustang I sold with a stick before getting this car, sold very fast even though it was a V6.
OK I kind of want it
In reply to tuna55 :
You need it. Anyone besides me needs it. I want to start working on this Hornet and I can't really do that till I make room by selling this car. I sold the old truck off, and I'm trying to make progress on the Vette to free up the garage again.
Check the link to the Classifieds here in my previous post.
The more I read through this the more I'm wondering if this can play to your advantage even more with new cars sitting on the lot.
Example, a new GTi. The manuals are already a lower MSRP than the dual clutch, but with so many people opting for that it seems you could probably get even more off the price as the manuals will have been sitting for even longer. I know some cars the manual may still be preferred (or at least a higher take rate), but I'm thinking that is mostly reserved for sports cars. Same could probably be said for why the Focus ST is moving so poorly (along with discontinuing it, obviously). Hmm....
I think dealers in general are stocking fewer manuals, because the take rate is so low. If they were sticking to many, then you could get a deal.
Honestly, the automatics have gotten so much better (and I've gotten so much older), that I would strongly consider an automatic if I was in the market for a new performance car right now.
Eh, the problem isn't that it's a stick, the problem is it's a Patriot, one of the 'City Jeeps' that doesn't know what the heck it's purpose in life is and does nothing it could be intended for well. A MT would have definitely been an improvement over the CVT in the one that I owned for entirely too long (about 9 months), but it still wouldn't have mitigated it being a rust-prone POS from the start.
Regarding Sticks vs. Autos.... only 1 of our 4 cars has been a stick (the DMC) for a while now, and that's unlikely to change any time soon as the Dancer is still resistant to learning to drive a manual. Even if she did, we'd probably still have slushboxes in the 2 DD vehicles. When the Rampage get sold and we hopefully pick up a convertible it will likely be an auto unless it's something older (Corvair) or much sportier where it's easier to find one with a stick than an auto.
Ashyukun (Robert) said:Eh, the problem isn't that it's a stick, the problem is it's a Patriot, one of the 'City Jeeps' that doesn't know what the heck it's purpose in life is and does nothing it could be intended for well. A MT would have definitely been an improvement over the CVT in the one that I owned for entirely too long (about 9 months), but it still wouldn't have mitigated it being a rust-prone POS from the start.
Regarding Sticks vs. Autos.... only 1 of our 4 cars has been a stick (the DMC) for a while now, and that's unlikely to change any time soon as the Dancer is still resistant to learning to drive a manual. Even if she did, we'd probably still have slushboxes in the 2 DD vehicles. When the Rampage get sold and we hopefully pick up a convertible it will likely be an auto unless it's something older (Corvair) or much sportier where it's easier to find one with a stick than an auto.
Right. I walk away instantly because it's a Jeep and has 182k miles. And isn't a wrangler or cherokee or wagoneer.
the mercury posted above is very tempting, especially for the price, but it's a pre-recession ford.....not exactly known for stellar reliability. the high mileage belies that sentiment a bit, and it does look clean. for $2k it's hard to go wrong if you get a year or two out of it. iirc the 2.3 is a duratec, which is a good motor
I guess the stick is one less thing to go wrong, but i'm not touching a fake jeep for any amount of money regardless of mileage.
I'm finding the opposite thing as a buyer.
I go to CL and sort by drive: 4x4, type: pickup/truck, distance: 100mi. I get 3000 results (that's the max they list, so it may be 5000 for all I know)
If I add in manual transmission, it drops to 315 results, and they are ALL remarkably ABOVE book value. I'm looking at a low-mileage 03 Ranger with crank windows... for 7500 freaking dollars. He even says "firm price". The same truck as an automatic is $5000 all day.
People around here selling manual transmission vehicles think they really have something special.
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