tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
4/6/16 1:46 p.m.

From the big GMC build thread, I drilled out a broken stud. Now, and of course only now, I recognize that I am not sure where the other end of this hole is going.

Checked on another cylinder before I started, it seemed to stop at the deck, leading me to think that it went to a coolant or oil drain at the worse, and just stopped at the gasket at the best.

But I have heard reference to people running studs when they measure the volume of runners. If mine goes into the intake port, well, that's bad.

Thoughts?

Opti
Opti HalfDork
4/6/16 2:10 p.m.

Im confused wgat your asking. If yours goes into a runner you should be able to see it.

wheels777
wheels777 Dork
4/6/16 2:15 p.m.

If its an early head, it goes to a the vertical wall of the intake port and depending on the casting touches the water passage, and the stud threads need sealed. If it is a later head it goes into the intake port, and need to have the threads sealed.

I always use screw in studs.

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
4/6/16 3:05 p.m.

It's 1972. I am not sure if that's early or late.

Also, I am putting in new pressed in studs, so I assume they will seal.

The head is still on the engine, and ideally isn't coming off.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
4/6/16 3:11 p.m.

I think you are over thinking this. It's a small block chevy. They can ingest birds and still run right.

Suck the port out with a shop vac and run it.

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
4/6/16 3:15 p.m.
Dusterbd13 wrote: I think you are over thinking this. It's a small block chevy. They can ingest birds and still run right. Suck the port out with a shop vac and run it.

I am definitely leaning towards the "vacuum with a small diameter tube stuck on the end" approach. I just wanted to check and see what I was in for.

I tried calling TunaDad but he yelled at me for not doing screw in studs. I don't think he really understands not-spending at this level. However, he thought it was into the coolant, not the intake. This agrees with Wheels early head idea, though I should be able to tell by putting water in the block.

wheels777
wheels777 Dork
4/6/16 4:35 p.m.
tuna55 wrote:
Dusterbd13 wrote: I think you are over thinking this. It's a small block chevy. They can ingest birds and still run right. Suck the port out with a shop vac and run it.
I am definitely leaning towards the "vacuum with a small diameter tube stuck on the end" approach. I just wanted to check and see what I was in for. I tried calling TunaDad but he yelled at me for not doing screw in studs. I don't think he really understands not-spending at this level. However, he thought it was into the coolant, not the intake. This agrees with Wheels early head idea, though I should be able to tell by putting water in the block.

I like TunaDad

gearheadE30
gearheadE30 Reader
4/7/16 10:18 a.m.

Vortec heads go into the water jacket if memory serves from when I did mine. Not sure about old ones, but I wouldn't think they're that different. Not sure I understand why it matters though. You want them to be decently sealed regardless.

I would also yell at you for not doing screw in studs. Studs are quite cheap, and it only takes a few hours with a tap and a $20 guide block from Summit to do the job.

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand Reader
4/7/16 11:40 a.m.
gearheadE30 wrote: Vortec heads go into the water jacket if memory serves from when I did mine. Not sure about old ones, but I wouldn't think they're that different. Not sure I understand why it matters though. You want them to be decently sealed regardless. I would also yell at you for not doing screw in studs. Studs are quite cheap, and it only takes a few hours with a tap and a $20 guide block from Summit to do the job.

I am currently doing this on my LT1 Challenge car. If I can do it with a Challenge car budget, you can do it to any other project.

The studs are like $15. You can even make your own guide block. Takes a couple hours with a tap. Use thread sealer. Do it right and never think about it again.

novaderrik
novaderrik UltimaDork
4/7/16 1:15 p.m.

you can take the head off and do it right with screw in studs for the cost of a $35 gasket set and $15 for studs..

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
4/7/16 4:36 p.m.

The head isn't coming off boys. Stay on topic.

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