I have been looking around at Jag XJS V12s (2010 Challenge maybe?) and came across the Lynx Eventer, a shooting brake conversion of the XJS. I want one
Post more pics of shooting brakes...or for the most awesome of awesome, shooting brakes with box flares.
Where's the line between a shooting brake and a fastback? Seems like it might be a little vague. It could be argued that the Volvo P1800 ES was a factory shooting brake.
mtn
SuperDork
10/11/09 1:58 p.m.
I would call the Z3 coupe/M coupe a shooting brake.
mtn wrote:
I would call the Z3 coupe/M coupe a shooting brake.
Not sure I can go there - no back seat. Shooting brake should have a backseat for the kids...or retriever...
Will
Reader
10/11/09 2:52 p.m.
The Ferrari Daytona wagon looks like the love child of a Lotus Europa and an El Camino with a camper shell.
Not sure how this happened, but it looks like it's got a longer wheelbase, too.
Will said:
The Ferrari Daytona wagon looks like the love child of a Lotus Europa and an El Camino with a camper shell.
I was thinking more along the lines of a Gremlin or Pacer.
I believe the Sultan of Brunei and his brother commissioned some unexpectedly good-looking Ferrari wagons that fit into this discussion.
Keith wrote:
Where's the line between a shooting brake and a fastback? Seems like it might be a little vague. It could be argued that the Volvo P1800 ES was a factory shooting brake.
Fastback has a sloped roof that meets the body line, but not at such an angle as a sedan would have. I would say that Volvo is the definition of a shooting brake.
This to me is a fastback:
see... I see that as a coupe'
I see fast backs as having the roof continue down to the end of the car's lines in a low slope. many hatchbacks could be considered fastbacks..
the VW golf is a hatchback, but not a fastback
the Scirrocco and Corrado are fastbacks.
Hrm, I'd call the Golf a Kammback.
A foxbody Mustang GT would be both a fastback and a hatchback. (And Toyota would call it a "Liftback")
Looking at the picture of the Volvo again, I'm gonna change my statement to "the Volvo P1800 ES is a factory shooting brake". Even before reading the Reverend's description.
I'm guessing this is too sloped to be a shooting brake.
coupe = 2 doors, quarter windows, with or without B pillar, roof line ends at the rear quarters with a defined trunk.
Fastback = 2 doors, quarter windows with or without B pillar, roof line fades smoothly into rear of the car.
2 door hardtop = 2 doors, quarter windows, no B pillar
2 door sedan = 2 doors, quarter windows with B pillar.
Modern styling departments have forgotten about or haven't bothered to learn the differences.
Shawn
Keith: according to that fount of all knowledge, Wikipedia, "Shooting-brake is a 2-door car body style with a squared-off rear. They generally have hatchbacks although one or a pair of side-hinged doors is also sometimes seen. The term originated with custom built 2-door luxury estate cars altered for use by hunters and other sportsmen such as golfers, riders, and polo players requiring easy access to larger storage areas than offered by the typical automobile boot." They include the MGB-GT as an example of the breed.
I don't know why they put a hyphen in "shooting-break," however.
JoeyM
Reader
10/11/09 6:48 p.m.
Trans_Maro wrote:
coupe = 2 doors, quarter windows, with or without B pillar, roof line ends at the rear quarters with a defined trunk.
Fastback = 2 doors, quarter windows with or without B pillar, roof line fades smoothly into rear of the car.
2 door hardtop = 2 doors, quarter windows, no B pillar
2 door sedan = 2 doors, quarter windows with B pillar.
Modern styling departments have forgotten about or haven't bothered to learn the differences.
One other: Phaeton = four place convertible.
M2Pilot
New Reader
10/11/09 7:00 p.m.
Does anyone remember the XKE that Harold converted into a hearse in Harold & Maude? If someone can find a pic it might be worth posting.
928 Shooting Brake- I seem to recall seeing a different one somewhere that was a bit more attractive
JFX001
Dork
10/11/09 7:25 p.m.
Datsun1500 wrote:
I am surprised you don't see more of these on the road.
Very nice.
That would be classified as an "estate" though.Shooting brakes are two door wagon-esque sports touring type vehicular modes of transportation.
alex
Dork
10/11/09 7:41 p.m.
I'm not sure I'd call the B GT a shooting brake, but I'm not too sure why. I don't think it has enough window behind the B pillar. (But that's a great color.)
P1800ES, for sure.
And that Aston is teh secks.
I guess technically the VW fox qualifies as a shooting brake.
Never made it out of the factory.
Thank goodness.
mtn
SuperDork
10/11/09 7:57 p.m.
dimeadozen wrote:
928 Shooting Brake- I seem to recall seeing a different one somewhere that was a bit more attractive
Perhaps you were thinking of the 944 shooting brake that I've seen?