ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/24/12 6:57 p.m.

I'd been running Street Prepared so long with my 2002 and then was clearly Street Modified with the E30... Now I'm going to do an autocross with the WRX on the stock tires.

So...

Will I get beat worse running in Stock against people in similar cars on R-comps, or in Street Touring against people with warmed-over cars on TW140s...

I'm leaning towards Street Touring, since people seem to modify backwards half the time, and stickier is stickier... But I'm listening.

DaveEstey
DaveEstey Dork
2/24/12 7:07 p.m.

Look at WRX times in stock class and in STS and you'll have your answer.

I don't honestly know.

mw
mw HalfDork
2/24/12 7:23 p.m.

The new RTA Provisional class. Stock with street tires.

Uncoiled
Uncoiled Reader
2/24/12 7:46 p.m.

Tire class, thats what I ran in my last auto-x, PAX class, I ran about middle of the pack in my WRX, with a good driver it could have done really well.

wbjones
wbjones SuperDork
2/24/12 7:53 p.m.
DaveEstey wrote: Look at WRX times in stock class and in STS and you'll have your answer. I don't honestly know.

won't find many WRX times in the STS results...

STX maybe ... STS is owned by Miata's and CRX's with the occasional MR2

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/25/12 2:16 p.m.
Uncoiled wrote: Tire class, thats what I ran in my last auto-x

Tire class? Is there a modifier missing before "tire"? "street tire"?

Uncoiled
Uncoiled Reader
2/25/12 2:51 p.m.

Its a street tire class, but under registration it was just called Tire, then you also had your base class tacked on as well. So ya I guess it is street tire class.

Duke
Duke SuperDork
2/25/12 5:01 p.m.

I'd say go with the street tire class. Our local region has a T street tire index for classes that allow R comps. While I sincerely applaud the idea, the index is pretty tough on the street tire guys.

wbjones
wbjones SuperDork
2/25/12 7:17 p.m.

the tire guys get screwed by the pax only when they're compared to the mother class... within the tire class they all get the same sorta screwing , so they're fighting among themselves ... unless they care about overall pax .... never seen any pax trophies given out at the end of the day

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/25/12 9:08 p.m.

This is levelled at organizers and not the helpful folks in this thread, but when the distinction is between tires of type "A" and tires of type "B", calling the class "tire" and not "A tire" or "B tire" is the most unutterably stupid thing I've heard this month.

It's like differentiating between "cat" and "dog" by calling one of them "mammal".

Anyhow, thanks for the input. It does jibe with my gut feeling about whether R-comps or the types of mods likely to show up in street tire classes (and the overall level of seriousness likely to show up in street tires classes) is more of a mismatch.

wbjones
wbjones SuperDork
2/26/12 8:29 a.m.

FWIW most of the folk that end up running in Tire class ( at least in these parts) are drivers with cars that have been classed, due to mods they want for the street, that don't want to spend the $$$$ for the purple crack and know they can't be competitive with the other R-comps on the market ( that really aren't all that much less $$) so they run whatever 140 Tire they find to work best with their type of car ... there really are several different tires out there ... all within small % of each other as far as times go .... depending, of course, on how moded and how heavy the car

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