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Anti-stance
Anti-stance Reader
4/2/12 5:34 p.m.

Lap one, Turn one.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
4/2/12 5:42 p.m.

Looks like a Spec Pinata race!

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado PowerDork
4/2/12 5:54 p.m.

You don't have to earn licenses in Forza. You're thinking of GT.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Reader
4/2/12 5:59 p.m.

In reply to friedgreencorrado:

Truth! I got mixed up.

iceracer
iceracer SuperDork
4/2/12 6:01 p.m.

Looks like he is banking for the turn.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo UltraDork
4/2/12 6:03 p.m.

Looks to me like most of them know you gain most traction on the tarmac. Meh. Good enough...

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Reader
4/2/12 6:08 p.m.

The 97 Turner car is squeezing the 51 Roush car for no damn reason also. WTF are these guys doing. Its not drag racing, there is more than the first 1/4 mile to turn one.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/2/12 6:14 p.m.

Jason Saini (@jasonsaini) has been commenting about that very incident via Twitter. Um, yeah, what happened?

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy HalfDork
4/2/12 6:52 p.m.

Hmmmmmmmm, what car is alongside the white yellow stripped Mustang??

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Reader
4/2/12 7:10 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens:

Yeah, I saw Saini post that on Facebook. I didn't notice it until I read his post. The only thing I could think of was maybe the white and blue/yellow car incident may have been headed track right/drivers right and he was aiming for where the incident had been like they teach you in basic road course school and didn't know the Roush 51 was there. The start was full of stupid sauce.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Reader
4/2/12 7:12 p.m.

In reply to oldeskewltoy:

I believe it is a Z car.

Edit: here ya go its from Doran Racing

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer PowerDork
4/2/12 7:14 p.m.

From "Sput's" FB page

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Reader
4/2/12 7:16 p.m.

In reply to DukeOfUndersteer:

Hahaha! Paul, we are on top of it.

DWNSHFT
DWNSHFT Reader
4/2/12 8:08 p.m.

You don't need a Forza license. Or a Gran Turismo license. Just bring $100,000 and they'll let anyone drive.

However, you are reading that photo entirely wrong. Amateur racing is where you might see some "No no, Nigel, after you!" This is pro racing and devil take the hindmost.

David

64chrysler300
64chrysler300 Reader
4/2/12 8:34 p.m.

OOPS! Somebody left full damage on....Must have been FriedGreenCorrado's lobby

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/2/12 8:35 p.m.
Javelin wrote: Looks like a Spec Pinata race!

it even has the prerequisite jumping car

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado PowerDork
4/2/12 9:15 p.m.

A lot of people underestimate the elevation changes at Barber because they're only looking at the track map. Mr. Barber is actually more of a bike fan, the course was designed for them. T1 is downhill, and the whole track (IMO) is narrow for cars.

Aside to 64chrysler: DWNSHFT has a point..if a pro driver is successful enough, it's just "..tell the sponsors to pay for another one.."--especially in one of these "ladder to the top" classes. Search Formula 3 crashes for some spectacular stuff.

I appreciate the joke, tho!

Max_Archer
Max_Archer New Reader
4/3/12 12:19 a.m.

I don't imagine you get into Grand-Am without having backup cars or plans to build them, anyway. It's essentially a touring/GT series, and at this level on these types of tracks you can't expect to get through a season unscathed. Besides, the cost of another shell to drop parts into is a drop into the bucket compared to the rest of the cost of running a team.

Maroon92
Maroon92 MegaDork
4/3/12 7:02 a.m.
DWNSHFT wrote: Amateur racing is where you might see some "No no, Nigel, after you!" This is pro racing and devil take the hindmost.

Even in pro racing, the old saying rings true. "You can't win the race in the first corner, but you sure can lose it."

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Reader
4/3/12 9:13 a.m.

Its Grand Am, every driver in the field either pays to drive or a gentleman driver pays for them. There really isnt a ladder system, its a bring money or find someone to bring your money to the raceshop and have someone with the money to pay for it if you break the equipment.

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer PowerDork
4/3/12 9:19 a.m.
Max_Archer wrote: I don't imagine you get into Grand-Am without having backup cars or plans to build them, anyway. It's essentially a touring/GT series, and at this level on these types of tracks you can't expect to get through a season unscathed. Besides, the cost of another shell to drop parts into is a drop into the bucket compared to the rest of the cost of running a team.

I can't speak for all teams, but majority don't have back up cars. If they get damaged, they re-tub them and go back out the next race weekend. I know the E92 M3 I was working on had been previously re-tubbed, and had been beat, battered and bruised from other on-track incidents. If the chassis is straight, they will just cut out the bad quarters and weld new on.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Reader
4/3/12 9:22 a.m.
DukeOfUndersteer wrote:
Max_Archer wrote: I don't imagine you get into Grand-Am without having backup cars or plans to build them, anyway. It's essentially a touring/GT series, and at this level on these types of tracks you can't expect to get through a season unscathed. Besides, the cost of another shell to drop parts into is a drop into the bucket compared to the rest of the cost of running a team.
I can't speak for all teams, but majority don't have back up cars. If they get damaged, they re-tub them and go back out the next race weekend. I know the E92 M3 I was working on had been previously re-tubbed, and had been beat, battered and bruised from other on-track incidents. If the chassis is straight, they will just cut out the bad quarters and weld new on.

This^^

Max_Archer
Max_Archer New Reader
4/3/12 1:48 p.m.
DukeOfUndersteer wrote:
Max_Archer wrote: I don't imagine you get into Grand-Am without having backup cars or plans to build them, anyway. It's essentially a touring/GT series, and at this level on these types of tracks you can't expect to get through a season unscathed. Besides, the cost of another shell to drop parts into is a drop into the bucket compared to the rest of the cost of running a team.
I can't speak for all teams, but majority don't have back up cars. If they get damaged, they re-tub them and go back out the next race weekend. I know the E92 M3 I was working on had been previously re-tubbed, and had been beat, battered and bruised from other on-track incidents. If the chassis is straight, they will just cut out the bad quarters and weld new on.

That makes sense. My brain was failing to come up with "re-tub" at the time I was typing, that's what I meant by "plans to build them." I figured that was the more likely option than actually having a prepared backup car.

CGLockRacer
CGLockRacer GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
4/5/12 12:35 p.m.

Found a video online of this and another wreck...

http://vimeo.com/39577116

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
4/5/12 12:54 p.m.

Dang. LeMons is cleaner than the pro stuff.

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