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Tyler H
Tyler H GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/29/09 7:55 p.m.

I have a 91 MR2 for a toy car right now. Since my second daughter was born, it has been a barn ornament.

Iv'e been having evil thoughts about getting rid of the MR2 and replacing it with a sleeper wagon.

What do you guys think is the ultimate sleeper wagon/ sedan within $2k of the market value of the MR2?

Requirements:

<=$4500 (or partial trade for the MR2) Can accept two child seats safely. Interesting enough to replace my 'fun' car (doesn't have to be fast, but can't be merely 'pedestrian.') Coupes with 'real' back seats aren't out of the question.

I've been thinking about turbo Volvos, BMWs, Subie wagons that can accept EJ20s, etc.

Sad to see the MR2 in hibernation due to the lack of seats.

plance1
plance1 HalfDork
10/29/09 8:04 p.m.

volvo turbo wagon, people who own them are really cool.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver SuperDork
10/29/09 8:19 p.m.

4 door E30 or E36

Turbo Volvo

P71

scooby wagon or impreza (4 door)

If your going to be lugging kids on a regular basis I would defiantly go 4 door.

http://www.emergencyremarketing.com/ P71 source that I am considering..

BobOfTheFuture
BobOfTheFuture Reader
10/29/09 8:20 p.m.

You can be cool too!

mtn
mtn SuperDork
10/29/09 8:20 p.m.

94-96 Roadmonster/Caprice

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess SuperDork
10/29/09 8:21 p.m.

I saw an ad for a 92 SC400 for $3100 the other day.

Sonic
Sonic Dork
10/29/09 8:22 p.m.

Trade for my E30 325is?

irish44j
irish44j Reader
10/29/09 8:27 p.m.

plymouth turbo voyager

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/29/09 8:37 p.m.

A project Impala SS/Roadmaster LT1 wagon?

Turbo Volvo/Saab Wagon/hatch?

Subaru wagon/sedan/hatch?

P71 with change left over?

E30/E36?

My serious vote would be for some sort of awesome 50's/60's wagon slammed on modern wheels/tires with an engine swap. Think LS1/4L60 with 4-wheel discs and air ride in a Olds Vista Cruiser.

CLNSC3
CLNSC3 Reader
10/29/09 9:02 p.m.

I would probably get a first generation Subaru Legacy Turbo wagon. You can find them in your price range all day long. The wagons were not available with a manual tranny but there are many out there that have been converted, the sedan did come with a manual though.

Carson
Carson Dork
10/29/09 9:04 p.m.

Toyota Cressida with a 5 speed and a turbo.

Well under $4k for a N/A automatic with plenty of money left over for Supra bolt on bits.

Awesome sleeper.

Travis_K
Travis_K HalfDork
10/29/09 9:45 p.m.

I have driven a roadmonster, its like driving a recliner. comfortable, but not my idea of fun. lol It sounds to me like you are just looking for someone to tell you to get a turbo volvo, which isnt a bad idea at all :)

Tyler H
Tyler H GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/29/09 9:56 p.m.
Sonic wrote: Trade for my E30 325is?

Hmm...ok.

amg_rx7
amg_rx7 Reader
10/29/09 11:12 p.m.

Passat or Audi wagon

Mk4 VW Golf

Saab 9-3 or 9-5

e34 BMW 525i

Volvo wagon

Sadly there aren't many Japanes wagons or hatches other than the Subie. There was a Camry wagon but I wouldn't drive it.

Mazdax605
Mazdax605 Reader
10/30/09 6:18 a.m.

There was a Mazda6 wagon years ago. I am not sure if they are in the price range listed,but maybe. I know we were looking at one in 04,so maybe they have depreciated a lot over the last 5-6 years. They were available with a manual transmission as well.

davidjs
davidjs New Reader
10/30/09 7:45 a.m.
Mazdax605 wrote: There was a Mazda6 wagon years ago. I am not sure if they are in the price range listed,but maybe. I know we were looking at one in 04,so maybe they have depreciated a lot over the last 5-6 years. They were available with a manual transmission as well.

I think the 6 hatches were trending a little bit cheaper than the wagons, and (at least seemed) to be more common in a manual...

awdbandito
awdbandito New Reader
10/30/09 8:34 a.m.

Subaru Wagon

AWD is safe, and fun.

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/30/09 8:59 a.m.

740/940 Turbo.

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joepaluch
joepaluch New Reader
10/30/09 9:03 a.m.

Mk IV Golf or GTI.

Get the 1.8T and they can be fast in a small pratical "economy" package.

I am pretty sure they are in your price range these days.

jrw1621
jrw1621 Dork
10/30/09 9:19 a.m.

81gtv6
81gtv6 GRM+ Memberand Reader
10/30/09 9:21 a.m.

I will second the 9-3 idea. Get the right one and you will have 205hp 209tq, mid to high 30s on the highway, don't have to use premium gas, safe and will get up and go if you want it to.

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/30/09 9:29 a.m.

when the PGT's time comes, it will be replaced by a sedan or wagon with similar desires as the OP. i asked my good friend who's been a professional wrench since the late '70s, and he said for the sedan I should be looking at E36 or Volvo turbo, and for wagon i should be looking at E34/E39 or Volvo turbo. he said all of the above are quite robust, but i don't remember which one has cheaper parts. i think for the price i'm looking to pay, it'll be E36 sedan or turbo brick.

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/30/09 9:30 a.m.

oh, also to the OP, coupes with "real" back seats will be out of the question after you've loaded the kids into their seats a few times. unless you decide to tough it out until the kids are able to buckle themselves in (about 4 years old). that's what i've done, since i only had to carry them both about 6 times per year.

Sofa King
Sofa King New Reader
10/30/09 9:48 a.m.

I hate making compromises in my vehicles! A sporty car is never really a "sports car", and a sport wagon isn't a roomy family hauler. If you want performance and room for kids...keep the MR2 and use the $2k to buy a beater minivan! (or turbo Volvo or subie or P71). If you want the best of both worlds, have one of each!

Autolex
Autolex HalfDork
10/30/09 10:00 a.m.

Porsche Panamera?

OH! I totally thought you meant <$400k

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