Car burnt but still has good parts - $1700
Hard to judge by the pics, but generally speaking, I see a surprising number of modified cars with a lot of expensive parts running sketchy 30-year old fuel (and other) hoses. I would not be surprised if something along those lines was a failure point here.
So many people take stupid risks with obvious fire hazards. The sarcastic and condescending responses I get when I ever mention something unsafe and explain how it could easily be fixed are always amusing too.
snailmont5oh wrote: If anyone buys that, I'd like to have the K-member/Lower control arms.
Ha ha, that is unlikely. This is in the crack pipe aisle.
TiggerWelder wrote: Those pics of a burnt car certainly are current, like before the fire was even out, post to CL!
HAHAHA it really does seem like that.
That looks very fixable. The biggest thing is if anything melted under the dash. Even that is not a real problem as parts are so common.
In reply to pointofdeparture:
When you state "sketchy" are we talking old fuel lines or bad connections? Please elucidate, as I won't be able to sleep tonight otherwise. Currently have new rubber efi line with two hose clamps per connection.
In reply to Trackmouse:
Both. Lots of worm gear hose clamps on old, disintegrating fuel line out there...ignored in favor of the next go-fast part. Probably 3 out of 5 modified cars on Craigslist have this issue and even a fair amount of people that should know better are guilty.
There's a difference between work gear hose clamps and proper EFI clamps.
The word gear clamps cut into the hose and can cause leaks.
pointofdeparture wrote: Hard to judge by the pics, but generally speaking, I see a surprising number of modified cars with a lot of expensive parts running sketchy 30-year old fuel (and other) hoses. I would not be surprised if something along those lines was a failure point here.
Saw that happen at Sebring a few years ago. Gorgeous 993 Turbo race car with full carbon fiber wide-body kit. Threw spectacular 3' fireballs with each downshift. As he passed me (for the 800th time) I smelled fuel and saw liquid pouring out from under the car. Honked and flashed my lights, but he didn't notice ... then he entered the hairpin. Typical exhaust fireball and BOOM. Burst into flames right in front of me.
Turns out he was still running the original rubber fuel hoses and one of them let go.
In reply to Trackmouse:
Clamps like these and J30R9 spec hose (with gas having 10-15% ethanol you even need it for non efi cars now), no glass or plastic fuel filters, and immediately fixing stuff like leaky carburetors or any other fuel leaks are the main things to be safe.
Ok. I have a few worm drives on the hoses now. In the appliance industry I've learned these are usually fine as long as they are not crimped down so hard that the rubber smooshes through the cuts for the worm drive. But I will swap to those solid ones now. Cheap insurance.
In reply to Mike:
If you bend it, do you see cracks? Time for new. It's why I bought new lines. Also, general common sense. If you know that rubber hose has been there since 1985, its old.
Or like me with my 924s. I had to move it on the starter but it is dead so I put a 100 booster on it and as I am moving it with the hood open and booster clamps an the battery I see a really fine mist spraying out of the fuel lines completely engulfing the top of the motor in a fine mist. Shut it down and went and unplugged the booster and just walked away as the pressure bleed it self down. No fire but it was a close one. OE Porsche lines from 1987. Guess I got my $$$ from them.
Mike wrote: Okay, I'll ask: What is an "old" fuel line?
If you don't know how old it is and your car is 15+ years old*, it is "old."
*Change that number to ~5 years if your car has forced induction. FI cars tend to bake the living crap out of everything rubber under the hood.
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