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kazoospec
kazoospec SuperDork
7/28/17 8:40 a.m.

Electric truck anyone?

Pic:

At first I was thinking the Aztek had some competition, but it turns out the ugliness has some utility/purpose. Some interesting, if basic, engineering in it.

HonestSpeedShop
HonestSpeedShop New Reader
7/28/17 8:48 a.m.

all function over form... i love it.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ UltraDork
7/28/17 8:55 a.m.

Well... I like that a lot. Overall concept is cool as hell, hard to tell from pictures whether the execution is any good. I wonder if they need beta testers

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
7/28/17 8:58 a.m.

Is it named Geoff?

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/28/17 9:00 a.m.

Not bad, I bet they would sell well by me. Defender utility without the fuel bill. If I had the money I would take mine with long arms and big meats. Only downside is that it looks like it doesn't have much space for longer struts.

slantvaliant
slantvaliant UltraDork
7/28/17 9:12 a.m.

Hmmm ... pass-through ...

Re: Styling. I maintain that one of the keys to the success of utility vehicles, such as the Jeep, was the abundance of horizontal surfaces. Maps, canteen cups, and mermites do better when they aren't on the ground or balanced on knees.

Utility shouldn't end when the vehicle stops.

Dr Ribs Revere
Dr Ribs Revere Reader
7/28/17 9:13 a.m.

Yes please! Also how do I add the range extender (generator)? I wonder how he'll get past safety standards. Will it essential fall under a kit car category?

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
7/28/17 9:14 a.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: If I had the money I would take mine with long arms and big meats. Only downside is that it looks like it doesn't have much space for longer struts.

From the article: "available ground clearance, which can be adjusted between 10 and 20 inches thanks to a hydropneumatic suspension system. The B-1’s maximum approach, breakover and departure angles of 56, 33, and 53 degrees would make a mountain goat jealous, let alone a Jeep Wrangler."

So...why do you need the big tires and stuff?

All I can say is take my money. Hauls 4x8 plywood, 12 foot boards, tows 6100 lbs, 0-60 under 5 seconds, and goes up to 200 miles on a charge...all in something the size/shape of a first gen Bronco? When can I get one?

T.J.
T.J. MegaDork
7/28/17 9:15 a.m.

I had to google 'mermite'. Learned something today and it is still early.

T.J.
T.J. MegaDork
7/28/17 9:16 a.m.

12' long boards with the tailgate up. That is interesting.

I like it in pickup configuration. Very early Bronco looking.

The0retical
The0retical SuperDork
7/28/17 9:22 a.m.

I dig it.

What I don't dig is the price. I still have trouble wrapping my brain around a "Well equipped, not luxury SUV" being $60 to $80 grand.

rslifkin
rslifkin SuperDork
7/28/17 9:29 a.m.

It's expensive, but based on the numbers given, it's a vehicle that'll go more places than a stock Wrangler and can carry about as much weight as an F-350 dually. It just doesn't have the towing ability, but that's due to lack of size (and I'm sure the range wouldn't be very good with a whole lot of trailer back there anyway). That's quite a bit of vehicle for the money when you consider the cost of the more capable Wrangler packages or a big 4wd pickup.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ UltraDork
7/28/17 9:30 a.m.

Yeah, the price point is high and I don't understand why certain things were made more expensive- for example, are those portal hubs? Normal hubs would almost certainly reduce the cost, unless they're depending on those for all of their gear reduction and using the same upright for all four corners or something.

rslifkin
rslifkin SuperDork
7/28/17 9:32 a.m.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ wrote: Yeah, the price point is high and I don't understand why certain things were made more expensive- for example, are those portal hubs? Normal hubs would almost certainly reduce the cost, unless they're depending on those for all of their gear reduction and using the same upright for all four corners or something.

Portals let them get more ground clearance without needing impractically large tires (which means strengthening the drivetrain, bigger brakes, higher tire cost, less tire choices, more rotating weight, etc.)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ UltraDork
7/28/17 9:36 a.m.

In reply to rslifkin:

I get that, but have never heard of them as a cost reducing measure, typically a costly upgrade- although that's when adapting them to trucks which didn't come with them.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
7/28/17 9:36 a.m.

Best center console ever.

The0retical
The0retical SuperDork
7/28/17 9:39 a.m.

In reply to ultraclyde:

God that thing is spartan. I hope it's Trusco box in the center console.

I still want one.

Also 3 wiper blades!

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
7/28/17 9:52 a.m.

LOL. I think the tool box on the center console isn't even included....

APEowner
APEowner GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
7/28/17 9:57 a.m.

Interesting. I won't meet my current truck needs but I like it.

java230
java230 SuperDork
7/28/17 10:40 a.m.

Very cool. I hope it gets to production!

java230
java230 SuperDork
7/28/17 10:51 a.m.

Road and track has some cool videos

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/a10375356/this-electric-truck-is-the-future-of-off-roading/?src=nl&mag=rdt&list=nl_rdt_news&date=072817

kazoospec
kazoospec SuperDork
7/28/17 11:47 a.m.

The more I look at it, the more I like it. And the more I suspect it will die a quick death on the alter of Federal crashworthiness regs.

I'd love to see manufacturers being allowed to produce vehicles that acknowledge to all that they have safety deficiencies, but allow the buying public to decide whether to take the risk. I mean we're allowed to ride motorcycles, and without a helmet in some states. Insurance companies will no doubt ding the owners for such a vehicle, but that's capitalism.

Maybe this on the dash?

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/28/17 12:34 p.m.

In reply to ultraclyde:

Until you crack your elbow on it going over a log.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
7/28/17 12:40 p.m.

In reply to Pete Gossett:

That's what the optional $100k whale penis leather interior will be for...

maj75
maj75 HalfDork
7/28/17 10:19 p.m.

The "up too" in the range estimate leaves me unimpressed. This thing needs good range. Not too many plug-ins out on the trail. Unless you are tapping high tension lines.

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