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ShadowSix
ShadowSix HalfDork
6/26/12 6:26 p.m.
bgkast wrote: I've owned at least one for the past 6 years or so. Almost everything on them is fairly diy friendly. My current one is stick shift 240D with a turbo engine swapped in. 0 to 60 takes about 16 seconds. 79 is the bad year for rust, something about the steel supply that year. Great cars, built like a vault. I have over 350,000 miles on my current one.

Just by way of comparison, 0-60 in 16 secs. blows the doors off my '89 4 Cyl. Toyota 4Runner and I almost never have need to floor it unless I'm towing. I'd DD a 0-60 16 sec. car without a second thought.

The slowest M-B diesel I see here: http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60_Quarter_Mile_Times/M_0-60times.html does 0-60 in about 20 secs. A leisurely pace for sure, but nothing to be afraid of.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand UberDork
6/26/12 6:29 p.m.
DrBoost wrote:
BoxheadTim wrote: Keep in mind that the Diesels in the W124 are different engines compared to the W123...
Yeah, they are different, but not terribly so. More power, torques and mpg, but not much really.

Unless they got different engines over here, they grew an additional cylinder each (the 250 is a 5 cylinder, the 300 a six, with the W123 engines being a four for the 240 and a five pot for the 300). They really are rather different engines.

DrBoost wrote: I think (only going my the wisdom of the interwebs) the 123's are much more DIY friendly.

That is my understanding as well, although I didn't find the W124 250D I had a while back that hard to maintain.

DrBoost
DrBoost UberDork
6/26/12 7:06 p.m.
BoxheadTim wrote:
DrBoost wrote:
BoxheadTim wrote: Keep in mind that the Diesels in the W124 are different engines compared to the W123...
Yeah, they are different, but not terribly so. More power, torques and mpg, but not much really.
Unless they got different engines over here, they grew an additional cylinder each (the 250 is a 5 cylinder, the 300 a six, with the W123 engines being a four for the 240 and a five pot for the 300). They really are rather different engines.

I might not be following what you are laying down, I'm on my second margarita right now. But I don't know if there was a 4 cylinder W124, just the smaller chassis. The 124 300D is a 2.5L 5 popper. I think the 602 engine (my 5 popper) is the same engine that was in the 250, but I think the 250 was sans turbo?

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand UberDork
6/26/12 7:15 p.m.

Ah, there's probably a difference between the Euro models and the US models.

Europe got a six pot 300D with 3L displacement and IIRC a turbo version of that, too. I think you could also get a 250 2.5L with the turbo but that was rare.

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