G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man SuperDork
9/22/16 10:07 p.m.

Huh.

singleslammer
singleslammer UberDork
9/22/16 10:10 p.m.

It is entirely possible that website is older than you!

G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man SuperDork
9/22/16 10:16 p.m.

In reply to singleslammer:

Oh probably, I just remembered about this after someone said to me "a muffler delete hurts the engine because you don't have backpressure."

Chadeux
Chadeux HalfDork
9/22/16 10:23 p.m.

What is that even supposed to mean? Like I understand the possibility of too big of a pipe on too weak of an engine causing a loss of velocity ie, less flow. But I don't think a terrible flowing baffled muffler is ever going to help anything.

G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man SuperDork
9/22/16 10:44 p.m.

In reply to Chadeux:

This is what happens when you go on Facebook Groups.

Robbie
Robbie UltraDork
9/22/16 11:10 p.m.

That's called a pull my finger exhaust

SkinnyG
SkinnyG Dork
9/22/16 11:46 p.m.
G_Body_Man wrote: "a muffler delete hurts the engine because you don't have backpressure."

Saying an engine needs back pressure is like saying constipation is good for humans. It's flow you want.

Jay
Jay UltraDork
9/23/16 1:10 a.m.

It works!!!1

novaderrik
novaderrik UltimaDork
9/23/16 2:17 a.m.
G_Body_Man wrote: Huh.

Their dual O pipe is much more efficient, and don't forget to order some hollow spark plug wires and crossdrilled brake hoses while you are there..

novaderrik
novaderrik UltimaDork
9/23/16 2:18 a.m.
G_Body_Man wrote: Huh.

Their dual O pipe is much more efficient, and don't forget to order some hollow soark plug wires and crossdrilled brake hoses while you are there..

Chadeux
Chadeux HalfDork
9/23/16 2:21 a.m.

Need to get that lowering kit too.

HappyAndy
HappyAndy PowerDork
9/23/16 5:33 a.m.

There is no substitute for a genuine 710 cap.

petegossett
petegossett GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/23/16 5:53 a.m.
singleslammer wrote: It is entirely possible that website is older than you!

I realized last week I've been on GRM longer than our younger members have been alive...

Armitage
Armitage HalfDork
9/23/16 7:34 a.m.
novaderrik wrote: Their dual O pipe is much more efficient, and don't forget to order some hollow spark plug wires and crossdrilled brake hoses while you are there..

lol, I haven't heard that one before

NGTD
NGTD UberDork
9/23/16 9:53 a.m.
G_Body_Man wrote: In reply to singleslammer: Oh probably, I just remembered about this after someone said to me "a muffler delete hurts the engine because you don't have backpressure."

I post this everytime I see that comment!

Engines do not want Backpressure!!!

What they do want is flow velocity. If you make your exhaust too large you lose flow velocity at low rpms and it will hurt performance. Putting a 3" exhaust on your 1.6L Honda isn't going to help.

Put a turbo into this equation and it changes all the rules. You want as little back pressure as possible.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/23/16 1:14 p.m.
Chadeux wrote: What is that even supposed to mean? Like I understand the possibility of too big of a pipe on too weak of an engine causing a loss of velocity ie, less flow. But I don't think a terrible flowing baffled muffler is ever going to help anything.

You understand correctly.

Someone put a too-large pipe on, noted a power loss, then thought "Oh, the engine needed the backpressure!"

Meanwhile, the too-large pipe lost power because it created backpressure, not reduced it...

Driven5
Driven5 Dork
9/23/16 3:38 p.m.
Knurled wrote: Meanwhile, the too-large pipe lost power because it created backpressure, not reduced it...

Wait...So you're telling me that Bernoulli isn't just a type of pasta?

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/23/16 5:56 p.m.

That is EXACTLY what I am telling you! It's also a high capacity floppy disk that was popular for backups because it is far faster (and more seekable) than tape drives, and thumb drives/CD-ROM were science fiction. Hell, CDs were still in development when the Bernoulli came out.

(I remember when the 230MB Bernoulli came out. It was a real HSQ moment)

Jarod
Jarod GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/24/16 8:14 a.m.

In reply to NGTD:

Pipe sizing and velocity are still relevant pre turbo, correct? I have always understood that you wantax velocity pre turbo and a huge dump after.

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