digdug18
digdug18 Reader
5/18/10 3:05 p.m.

I changed the spark plugs on my '94 integra non-vtec, and 3 of the 4 were finger tight. I know that I did not install them this way. The new ones I installed I torqued down, went for a drive, and rechecked them, and 2 of them are loose again. When I say finger tight, I mean without rachet, just extension and spark plug socket.

What could cause this? Could it be a bigger problem?

Andrew

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer SuperDork
5/18/10 3:15 p.m.

had the same problem, though, it was on a Mk4 Jetta turbo and it happened yesterday! I put them in just tight enough, drove it home, and under boost it would miss, like a coil went bad. Popped the hood, found out the coils were being pushed out by the loosened plugs... Tightened them back up, good as gold!

pete240z
pete240z Dork
5/18/10 3:50 p.m.

Bob at work drove his big mean Ford F150 from Minneapolis to Iowa to buy a John Deere tractor. His engine spit a few plugs out requiring head work at an Iowa dealership. He told me it was common.

ansonivan
ansonivan Reader
5/18/10 4:26 p.m.

Did you tighten them enough to compress the crush washer? It's usually 1/4 - 1/3 turn past snug.

Nashco
Nashco SuperDork
5/18/10 4:40 p.m.

When you say "torqued down" are you using a (reliable) torque wrench set to the actual factory torque spec? Are you using any type of anti-seize?

Bryce

chknhwk
chknhwk Reader
5/18/10 5:17 p.m.
P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/18/10 5:38 p.m.

The F150 thing is totally different. The stupid 4.6 has like 1/3rd of a thread for plugs so it's stupid-common for them to blow the plugs straight out, threads and all. That is manufacturing dumbass decision that will not result in a recall.

As for all other cars, you have to actually crush the crush washer. Like Bryce says, find a torque spec and a torque wrench. On 99% of the cars I do plugs on I will re-tighten after the test drive for insurance anyways.

Lesley
Lesley SuperDork
5/18/10 5:41 p.m.

My old MX-3 blew a plug right out. When I popped the hood, it and the wire were lying on top of the manifold. Scared the crap out of me, thought I'd blown the freaking engine.

iceracer
iceracer Dork
5/18/10 6:26 p.m.

Do not use any kind of lubricant on the plugs.

digdug18
digdug18 Reader
5/18/10 6:44 p.m.

The plugs were already lubed from the oil/gas mixture from the finger tight plugs pushing past them while driving, so yeah.

I do not own a torque wrench, but I went 1/4 to 1/3 of a turn past tight, I could feel the crush washer crush, then get really hard afterwards. I guess I'll just retighten them on a weekly basis, until they stop loosening. I'm doing this with the engine cold btw.

Andrew

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/18/10 7:52 p.m.

Get a torque wrench. Srsly.

iceracer
iceracer Dork
5/19/10 9:32 a.m.

That's what I like about tapered seats, No gasket to worry about.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/19/10 10:00 a.m.
iceracer wrote: Do not use any kind of lubricant on the plugs.

I always use some degreaser on them before I put them back in, for safety.

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