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junkbuggie
junkbuggie Reader
6/17/11 2:46 a.m.

I got a good clean car for $300 but dont want to screw it up, would I be OK to run a stock car in the challenge? I know the rules don't prohibit it or anything but it might not be in the absolute spirt of the event. Thoughts?

Per Schroeder
Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director
6/17/11 5:20 a.m.

Yea, we're trying to limit stock or near stock cars--there's only so much editorial space in the magazine for that issue--but, we've never refused an entry because of that yet.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua SuperDork
6/17/11 5:23 a.m.

Throw some sticky rubber and nitrous on it and see what it will do.

turboHLS30
turboHLS30 Reader
6/17/11 6:09 a.m.

What Joshua said.

Raze
Raze Dork
6/17/11 7:14 a.m.

Why not remove the interior, throw on race rubber, fluid change, full tune up, scrub, clean, detail, bring to event, take home, put interior back in, put street tires on, drive to work in your 'restored' clean stock vehicle, only take a few hours to mod/unmod...

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/17/11 7:24 a.m.

good point... I might try that on my "new" saab

bluej
bluej Dork
6/17/11 7:28 a.m.

I actually have put some thought into a $0 challenger. I figured it would be something like this. buy something for next to nothing, recoup enough with un-needed interior or other bits being sold to still be under budget. Would probably need to come with decent rubber to start unless you bought rubber with a set of wheels and sold the wheels to bring the budget hit of the rubber to $0.

sort of a "challenger in white". Per, I know you guys run a "baseline" car for comparison purposes but it would also be interesting to see how something like this stacks up.

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave SuperDork
6/17/11 8:07 a.m.

That $300 car with $1000 worth of new Hoosiers would probably do quite well.

mndsm
mndsm SuperDork
6/17/11 8:10 a.m.
DILYSI Dave wrote: That $300 car with $1000 worth of new Hoosiers would probably do quite well.

I have a 400$ car that i've considered doing exactly that to. Just throwing the most wicked rubber I could at it and going.

bluej
bluej Dork
6/17/11 8:20 a.m.

i'm picking up a $200 car tomorrow

edit: running! car.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
6/17/11 8:27 a.m.

Good topic. I'm wondering what I could do budget wise with a $2000 LTD II I'm looking at. It already has a strong 351 and P.O. freshened the suspension.

But if I pick up anything, it will be a motorcycle.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/17/11 8:37 a.m.

Being a zillion miles away, I've entertained the thought of flying down, buying the coolest old car that $2000 will buy in Florida, and running it.

I do like the idea of the $0 Challenger or the $400 car + $1000 of rubber & nitrous

PhilStubbs
PhilStubbs New Reader
6/17/11 8:49 a.m.

^^

i like that idea. that would be very interesting to see how it worked out

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt Dork
6/17/11 9:09 a.m.
DILYSI Dave wrote: That $300 car with $1000 worth of new Hoosiers would probably do quite well.

I used a similar formula to end up in the top 1/3 of the autocross in 2004. $500 Probe with $600 worth of Kumhos.

ClemSparks
ClemSparks SuperDork
6/17/11 10:42 a.m.
Javelin wrote: Being a zillion miles away, I've entertained the thought of flying down, buying the coolest old car that $2000 will buy in Florida, and running it.

I'd be interested in an editorial side bar about this if someone did it. Heck...if I had a budget for it, I would do it.

Clem

junkbuggie
junkbuggie Reader
6/17/11 10:58 a.m.

Well on one hand it seems that this is a cop out. but on the other hand I don't have very good fabracation skills. Plus I don't even a drive way to work out of, however my brother has a shop what this means to me is I can do stuff but it has to be done start to finish in hours not months. I don't think it would be bone stock but no mind blowing mods mabey high ratio rockers and a small supercharger pully

mndsm
mndsm SuperDork
6/17/11 10:58 a.m.
MadScientistMatt wrote:
DILYSI Dave wrote: That $300 car with $1000 worth of new Hoosiers would probably do quite well.
I used a similar formula to end up in the top 1/3 of the autocross in 2004. $500 Probe with $600 worth of Kumhos.

Funny, cause the car in question (for me) is a 400$ mx6 turbo.

tuna55
tuna55 SuperDork
6/17/11 11:00 a.m.

I am completely missing these huge tire bill ideas - are there magic DOT approved tires out there that turn beige camry's into autocross eating machines?

mndsm
mndsm SuperDork
6/17/11 11:32 a.m.

I'm figuring that new hoosiers would be less heat cycled/tore up/hardened than used hoosiers. At least that's the theory.

tuna55
tuna55 SuperDork
6/17/11 11:43 a.m.
mndsm wrote: I'm figuring that new hoosiers would be less heat cycled/tore up/hardened than used hoosiers. At least that's the theory.

So hoosier makes some magical DOT approved tire that is that expensive?

mndsm
mndsm SuperDork
6/17/11 11:59 a.m.

Probably not. Just throwing around wild theories for fun.

cheechthechi
cheechthechi New Reader
6/17/11 12:01 p.m.

Hoosier A6s I believe

ansonivan
ansonivan Dork
6/17/11 12:02 p.m.
tuna55 wrote:
mndsm wrote: I'm figuring that new hoosiers would be less heat cycled/tore up/hardened than used hoosiers. At least that's the theory.
So hoosier makes some magical DOT approved tire that is that expensive?

Yup: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hoosier&tireModel=A6

$228 each for 225/45/15's

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
6/17/11 12:07 p.m.
tuna55 wrote:
mndsm wrote: I'm figuring that new hoosiers would be less heat cycled/tore up/hardened than used hoosiers. At least that's the theory.
So hoosier makes some magical DOT approved tire that is that expensive?

Why DOT approved? Challenge rules?

A good set of cantilever slicks can do magic for an otherwise unmodified car.

tuna55
tuna55 SuperDork
6/17/11 12:15 p.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: Why DOT approved? Challenge rules?

Yes, isn't that the point of this thread? Aren't the autocross rules pretty clear in requiring DOT tires?

This isn't intended as snarky, real questions only.

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