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Alexandre Premat tests the safety boundaries of his Audi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8PyfzGJSfs

What Audi?

RoosterSauce wrote: What Audi?

That is a real pants crapper when he climbs out the top of the wreck...

Wow, holy crap monkeys.

I really don't mind watching those types of crashed. The slow dissipation of energy resulting from the tumbling and the parts coming off is a good thing.

Crashes that involve really sudden stops (very unspectacular to watch watch) make me sick to my stomach.

dean1484 wrote: I really don't mind watching those types of crashed. The slow dissipation of energy resulting from the tumbling and the parts coming off is a good thing. Crashes that involve really sudden stops (very unspectacular to watch watch) make me sick to my stomach.

No kidding... Dale Sr's wreck comes to mind... as well as the old saying, "it ain't the fall that kills you - it's the sudden stop."

Wow that was crazy, those things some apart easier than a toaster struddle.. It's amazing how well the cages hold up though.

Not to mention that whole moving against the direction of the tires in a low friction surface helps pitching the car into the air..

Ummmm..... why, at around 1:55 does a course worker coming charging out with a witches broom?

Just sayin

He's casting a protective spell, duh.

Ian F wrote: No kidding... Dale Sr's wreck comes to mind... as well as the old saying, "it ain't the fall that kills you - it's the sudden stop."

Fast forward this to about 1:30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQXugT11Js8

CarKid1989 wrote: Ummmm..... why, at around 1:55 does a course worker coming charging out with a witches broom? Just sayin

I'm glad i'm not the only one who wondered if they were looking for the wicked witch under the car.

About the broom..speaking as a Corner Worker (Marshall/whatever they're called in that country)..did you see all that crap on the track? Somebody might like to resume using the racetrack later in the day, and if you're not flagging or responding to the accident..it's your job to start clearing it.

That being said, I still wonder why it's a house broom instead of a shop broom, though...

that was scary to watch, but I would personally rather the crash energy be used to scatter my car across the lawn rather than to turn my brain into a scrambled egg. in that bad of a crash, the car is a total write-off, there's no point trying to put humpty dumpty back together again because if you design the car to stay together in a crash that bad, you better design a driver who can stay together in a crash that bad also. remember Kubica's big crash in 2007 (?) at Circuit Gilles Villenueve where the only thing left of his car was the crash structure, the engine, and probably the gearbox, the rest was littered over the past two corners and the runoff area. Kubica only suffered either sprained or broken ankles, probably because his feet were partially hanging out of the monocoque by the time the dust had settled. a similar crash in a car designed to stay together under that kind of a crash, the driver would be either dead or severely injured

friedgreencorrado wrote: About the broom..speaking as a Corner Worker (Marshall/whatever they're called in that country)..did you see all that crap on the track? *Somebody* might like to resume using the racetrack later in the day, and if you're not flagging or responding to the accident..it's your *job* to start clearing it. That being said, I still wonder why it's a house broom instead of a shop broom, though...

I guessing there were only so many brooms, and had to grab what was handy. Does seem a little odd, but It's not like he was running out with a little dust buster or something.

MrBenjamonkey wrote: Wow, holy crap monkeys.

You have... like... a whole monkey theme going on don't you?

Slyp_Dawg wrote: that was scary to watch, but I would personally rather the crash energy be used to scatter my car across the lawn rather than to turn my brain into a scrambled egg. in that bad of a crash, the car is a total write-off, there's no point trying to put humpty dumpty back together again because if you design the car to stay together in a crash that bad, you better design a driver who can stay together in a crash that bad also. remember Kubica's big crash in 2007 (?) at Circuit Gilles Villenueve where the only thing left of his car was the crash structure, the engine, and probably the gearbox, the rest was littered over the past two corners and the runoff area. Kubica only suffered either sprained or broken ankles, probably because his feet were partially hanging out of the monocoque by the time the dust had settled. a similar crash in a car designed to stay together under that kind of a crash, the driver would be either dead or severely injured

I think Slyp's right. Remember when people used to say that NASCAR cars were the safest there were because they had these fantastic cage structures (this would have been in the 1980s)? Well, that's just not true anymore. Carbon fibre has made road racing cars a lot safer. It takes tremendous amounts of energy to shatter that stuff, and when it goes, that's a lot of energy absorbed (rather than transferring the energy like steel does). That's why all the great natural road courses in the US (the ones that have pro races, anyway) have put up all that concrete. Yeah, the places are a little uglier than they used to be, but to me it's worth it to see somebody climb out and say, "..tell the sponsors to send me another one!"

Scott Sharp, Petit Le Mans practice (Road Atlanta), 2009.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqlyiCGVLu8

sachilles wrote:

friedgreencorrado wrote: About the broom..speaking as a Corner Worker (Marshall/whatever they're called in that country)..did you see all that crap on the track? *Somebody* might like to resume using the racetrack later in the day, and if you're not flagging or responding to the accident..it's your *job* to start clearing it. That being said, I still wonder why it's a house broom instead of a shop broom, though...

I guessing there were only so many brooms, and had to grab what was handy. Does seem a little odd, but It's not like he was running out with a little dust buster or something.

Heh, heh..maybe those European tracks aren't as well-financed as we've been lead to believe?

In reply to friedgreencorrado:

Maybe there more witches than street-sweepers in Italy?

"yard sale"

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:

MrBenjamonkey wrote: Wow, holy crap monkeys.

You have... like... a whole monkey theme going on don't you?

I spend way too much time each day with middle schoolers. Sorry.

EricM wrote: "yard sale"

"..how do ya like my new carbon fibre drink coasters? Y'know, they came off of Alex Premat's DTM car.."