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SilverFleet
SilverFleet UltraDork
1/6/15 3:15 p.m.
SEADave wrote: Later G37 sedans have a little chrome spoiler thing on the trunklid - why?

I agree, that one is dumb. But what about the "Hitler Moustache" mini spoiler on the 1998 Ford Taurus SHO? I hate that thing, and it makes me point and laugh each time I see one.

SilverFleet
SilverFleet UltraDork
1/6/15 3:20 p.m.

While on the topic of crappy 1990's Tauri, what about Ford's obsession with ovals back in the mid-90's - early 2000's? Look at this:

They aped that center stack design right from a 1972 Computer Space arcade cabinet!

wae
wae HalfDork
1/6/15 3:21 p.m.

Ford's cruise control system that lacks a "cancel" button. I have to either turn off the system (which clears my set speed so I can't use the resume button) or tap my brakes.

Not being able to get the Bluetooth-equipped radio or the trip computer on a Mazda 5 with a stick shift.

+1 for the self re-locking doors. If I hit the button on the keyfob to unlock the doors, I freaking meant it.

Actually I generally hate any feature on a car that I don't have manual control over. DRLs? Fine, give me a button to turn them on or off. Traction Control, ABS, all that stuff. Also, if I want to run with my low beams, high beams, AND foglights on at the same time, let me decide that.

yamaha
yamaha MegaDork
1/6/15 3:38 p.m.

Cutting a hole in the roof so you could open and close a panel......does absolutely nothing a window slightly down couldn't do.....

NOHOME
NOHOME SuperDork
1/6/15 3:44 p.m.
clutchsmoke wrote: Tire pressure monitoring systems. I do not wish to elaborate.

^times a bazillion.

Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/6/15 3:46 p.m.
yamaha wrote: Cutting a hole in the roof so you could open and close a panel......does absolutely nothing a window slightly down couldn't do.....

I don't get that one

Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/6/15 3:48 p.m.
NOHOME wrote:
clutchsmoke wrote: Tire pressure monitoring systems. I do not wish to elaborate.
^times a bazillion.

They should tell you everything you need to know about the people behind the wheels of vehicles.

yamaha
yamaha MegaDork
1/6/15 4:03 p.m.
Hungary Bill wrote:
yamaha wrote: Cutting a hole in the roof so you could open and close a panel......does absolutely nothing a window slightly down couldn't do.....
I don't get that one

Anymore, most cars have sunroofs now.....it makes me really sad.

stanger_missle
stanger_missle GRM+ Memberand Dork
1/6/15 4:05 p.m.
NOHOME wrote:
clutchsmoke wrote: Tire pressure monitoring systems. I do not wish to elaborate.
^times a bazillion.

I recently had a 2014 Jetta as a rental car when I visited Chicago for Christmas. The 'LOW TIRE FIERY DEATH IMMANENT" light came on the first day I had the car. Of course it didn't specify which tire was low. I visually checked to see if one was very low but they all looked good. I didn't care enough to investigate which tire was 2psi less than the threshold.

What is the point of a warning system if it doesn't have any specificity? Same with check engine lights

In addition, when I put 33" tires on my Jeep, I shelled out about $200 to get Chrysler OEM TPMS sensors. I wanted to do it right the first time. I have a tuner so I could set the threshold to be appropriate for the larger tires. I could not get them to accept the lower pressure threshold. I tired to ignore the light and beeping but after a few days, I said berkeley it and turned them off.

stanger_missle
stanger_missle GRM+ Memberand Dork
1/6/15 4:06 p.m.
SEADave wrote: Later G37 sedans have a little chrome spoiler thing on the trunklid - why?

It looks like a chrome tramp stamp

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
1/6/15 4:11 p.m.
clutchsmoke wrote: Those mother berkeleying mouse belts of the late 80's early 90's!!

Absolutely, because the one in my 89 Maxima would break off the sunvisor that was DESIGNED to break off (preferably in a wreck).

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
1/6/15 4:15 p.m.

The sequential turn signals on the rear of the last few years Mustangs. I don't know why but I hate them with a fiery passion.

Diesel in anything that isn't a truck.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic PowerDork
1/6/15 4:16 p.m.

In reply to yamaha:

Except a window slightly down lets water in in the rain, tends to be loud at speed, and doesn't ventilate the car as well.

Though to be fair, the only sunroof car I ever had never leaked, because I kept the drains clean and gasket greased.

Driven5
Driven5 HalfDork
1/6/15 4:28 p.m.

Regarding the over-sized flat face fender lips, I too have found the recent trend in the implementation of this styling element to be absolutely horrifying, completely ruining the looks of some otherwise reasonably attractive cars. Sure there are other cars with smallish flat lips that still look perfectly fine, but it seems like even on some of those (Honda Fit) they have started to increase the size with any styling updates.

The auto-relocking isn't a big deal to me. It's been on every car I've owned in the last decade, and I find the logic behind it to not be unreasonable.

yamaha
yamaha MegaDork
1/6/15 4:28 p.m.

In reply to Kenny_McCormic:

Even doing all that, my Saturn still had issues. Screw the extra weight and unnecessary complexity, I'd rather have a slick top.

Mr_Clutch42
Mr_Clutch42 Dork
1/6/15 4:38 p.m.

One feature I don't like are flappy paddle automatics in a sporty/sports car that shifts at a regular speed/unresponsive. I autocrossed a buddies E90 diesel with flappy paddles and they HUGELY disappointed me. But it was an 08 before they made a lot of them really good, or before regular cars with a dual clutch automatic trans.

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/6/15 4:56 p.m.

In reply to Mr_Clutch42:

E90 diesel is a sporty/sports car? On what planet? I will say that flappy paddles were a bad idea on that particular car as it was a berkeleying diesel! Put it in D and floor it!

Also try the flappy paddles in a newer Miata. Works pretty good, blips the throttle on the downshift, etc.

Boost_Crazy
Boost_Crazy Reader
1/6/15 5:16 p.m.
All GM vehicles because apparently, they like turning the reverse lights on anytime you hit an unlock button. It's the EXACT SAME LIGHT PATTERN as a car reversing with brakes off. HOW IS THAT A SMART IDEA IN A PARKING LOT?! GAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGHAHRARRR!!!!!

I HATE that feature. I can't count how many times I've waited for empty cars to back up.

I won't buy a car with non defeatable traction control or stability control. I also hate torque management. If I floor the pedal, I expect the throttle to open all of the way.

TeamEvil
TeamEvil HalfDork
1/6/15 5:45 p.m.

"Any car that has oversized flat areas around the wheel wells."

I never even noticed it, but my Mustang has those damned things as well . . .

http://themustangsource.com/forums/attachments/f709/67888d1230643594-06-legend-lime-2006-stang-01.jpg

Maybe not as large, but totally unnecessary none the less.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/6/15 6:18 p.m.
kylini wrote: All GM vehicles because apparently, they like turning the reverse lights on anytime you hit an unlock button. It's the EXACT SAME LIGHT PATTERN as a car reversing with brakes off. HOW IS THAT A SMART IDEA IN A PARKING LOT?! GAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGHAHRARRR!!!!!

They've decided our cars at work need backup alarms so whenever I unlock my Suburban it beeps as well as lights up.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/6/15 6:18 p.m.
bravenrace wrote: Any car that has oversized flat areas around the wheel wells. I blame Nissan for starting this fulgy trend, illustrated by the, uh, car below.

Depends on how you do it. Gartrac flares on an Escort look killer. Example:

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/6/15 6:26 p.m.
yamaha wrote: Cutting a hole in the roof so you could open and close a panel......does absolutely nothing a window slightly down couldn't do.....

Sunroofs USUALLY don't freeze shut the way windows do.

If you wonder why you'd want to open a window when freezing is a problem, consider the issues involved with getting your warm person into a cold car after getting snow all over yourself from brushing the car off, and said warm person melts and evaporates said snow which re-condenses on the now-opaque windows.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/6/15 6:35 p.m.
CobraSpdRH wrote: There was that time in the 80's with the automatic seatbelt too,

absolute worst feature ever

racerdave600
racerdave600 SuperDork
1/6/15 6:39 p.m.
SilverFleet wrote:
dinger wrote:
DaveEstey wrote: Traction control
Ugh, the Toyota Tundra I until recently owned had the WORST traction control system I've ever had the displeasure of using. ANY wheelspin and it cuts the throttle entirely for 2-3 seconds, which is just fantastic when you are trying to cross an intersection when it's snowy or icy.
My Mazda 3 is like this. It is near impossible to get going in the snow, even with dedicated snow tires on, unless you switch it off. Which leads me to another annoying thing: Traction control that you cannot turn off.

The 370 does this as well, but I turn it before I leave the driveway. Right after I bought it, I almost got killed trying to cross a 4 lane during rush hour. I simply shut down right in the middle of the road. In a car where you struggle to keep from spinning the rear tires anyway, it's a real PITA. I just turn it off now and never use it.

The other worst feature I've found is also on this car, and that's the clutch helper spring. It's located under the clutch pedal and is supposed to make the clutch easier to use, but all it does is mask the take up point and make it impossible to shift smoothly. I just removed the spring and now it drives like a normal car. Clutch pedal effort is barely more than with the spring. WTH were they thinking.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/6/15 6:50 p.m.
Datsun1500 wrote: My 2, side mirrors that point down when you put it in reverse,

O.M.G. Thank you for reminding me of that. If I do bite the E46 M3 bullet, I'm going to find a way of disabling that nonsense.

BMWs are the absolute worst. They point the mirrors down to where you are looking at the ground under the B-pillar. I was told that the theory is that you can see how close you are to the curb. Over here in the real world, I couldn't give a crap about the curb, I want to know if I'm going to back into another car or something.

It does give you an excuse for putting your head into the passenger's crotch while parking, so it's a nice feature to have if you're going on a date.

If I ever get into a Brewster's Millions situation, one of the things I will do is test drive a new BMW and then take out something really expensive while parking. Just cream that M5 than I'm testing into the side of an X6M or some other douchemobile. "Well, the car moved the mirror to where I couldn't see it, so I figured that BMW doesn't care if you wreck E36 M3."

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