93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
2/1/11 4:16 p.m.

I may be picking one up to use as a Chump Car racer. What can you tell me about them and also is there anything that can be done for super cheap to make them faster?

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury SuperDork
2/1/11 4:19 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote: is there anything that can be done for super cheap to make them faster?

omfg nawsbooster

jk, I dunno. But I think Justys are fun.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
2/1/11 4:23 p.m.

I was wondering about motor swaps. But it being an inline-3, I don't imagine one of the boxer fours goes in to easy.

daytonaer
daytonaer Reader
2/1/11 4:52 p.m.

Some had 4 bangers. If you don't get an awd I would bet any small fwd engine would be as simple as a motor swap can be. Lots of empty space in a 3cyl engine bay.

Lugnut
Lugnut HalfDork
2/1/11 5:12 p.m.
daytonaer wrote: Lots of empty space in a 3cyl engine bay.

Evil laugh. Muahahahaha.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua SuperDork
2/1/11 5:26 p.m.

Dual 600cc bike motors, one powering each front wheel.

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/1/11 5:30 p.m.

The motors had a plastic valve cover that liked to leak apparently.

they are a little top heavy and not as quick handling as the Metro/Swift/Colt of similar time frame.

The CVT's were junk.

A little more info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Justy

Here's a potential part supplier:

http://www.dustysjustys.com/home.htm

BTW, the EF engine used in the Justy is based on the Suzuki G-series motors. You know the ones used in the Swift, etc? Yeah.

I'll just leave this here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_G_engine

I also believe there is a Suzuki Swift nut here on the board that knows all sorts of tricks to make the motors sing for cheap.....

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
2/1/11 5:34 p.m.

So I saw something about swapping 1.6 liter Miata pistons into the Justy. Any ideas on whether this would raise or lower compression.

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/1/11 5:36 p.m.

I'd look at swapping a Suzuki alloy 4-cylinder into the engine bay before tearing the 3-cylinder down.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
2/1/11 6:00 p.m.

Are the mounting points close to the same?

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/1/11 6:07 p.m.

Dunno, I would ask the more knowledgeable 'zuki folks.

Either way, I would suspect they would be close enough that some liquid steel and bits of steel plate would make it fit.

wheelsmithy
wheelsmithy GRM+ Memberand Reader
2/1/11 6:17 p.m.

I saw a justy at the junkyard once, looked to be half a flat six turned around so the pistoms pointed up??? Anyone have info, I recognoze this is probably 100% wrong.

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/1/11 6:18 p.m.

http://www.teamswift.net/album_pic.php?pic_id=793

http://subarujusty.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=engine&thread=1076

Looks pretty close to me.....

Not sure about the bellhousing or how the transaxle will fit.

rl48mini
rl48mini New Reader
2/1/11 7:17 p.m.

a G13B will start a bit over 100hp and should fit. Vitara pistons are reported to lower compression enough for a turbo. See: http://teamswift.net/ and http://www.16vminiclub.com

SVreX
SVreX SuperDork
2/1/11 9:18 p.m.

I've got a complete running one that needs some work I'm about to sell, if anyone wants one. $400.

Boxer 4- not a chance.

At least not in the front.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua SuperDork
2/1/11 9:29 p.m.

In reply to SVreX:

AWD?

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
2/1/11 9:34 p.m.

In reply to SVreX:

PM sent.

SVreX
SVreX SuperDork
2/1/11 10:15 p.m.
MrJoshua wrote: In reply to SVreX: AWD?

Nope. FWD.

None of them were really AWD. They were 4WD.

iceracer
iceracer Dork
2/2/11 8:59 a.m.

I went searching for a Justy some time ago. All had bad engines.

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