Sunny Day Daily Driver Better Than an NSX?

I have had and driven MANY MANY different P cars over the last 30 years+ and I think your over blowing the stigma associated with them. I have never had any issues like you describe in fact when driving some of the up scale models I am generally treated very well in terms of people getting out of the way and what not. Could it be a local problem?

Yes they are quite common. The bazillion Boxsters that are on the road have made the other Porsche models MUCH less special. In fact that is one of my biggest problems with Porsche. They all look the same to the non car person. A 30K Boxster and a 200K 911 look the same to a non car person and that is something that Porsche needs to fix. I see more Boxsters than I see new generation beetles.

I would get a turbo 911 over a NSX very day of the week. (I ahve driven both) But that does not make the NSX a POS far from it. It is a great car as well. I suggest driving both and seeing what YOU like and what YOU are willing to live with.

dean1484 wrote: I have had and driven MANY MANY different P cars over the last 30 years+ and I think your over blowing the stigma associated with them. I have never had any issues like you describe in fact when driving some of the up scale models I am generally treated very well in terms of people getting out of the way and what not. Could it be a local problem? Yes they are quite common. The bazillion Boxsters that are on the road have made the other Porsche models MUCH less special. In fact that is one of my biggest problems with Porsche. They all look the same to the non car person. A 30K Boxster and a 200K 911 look the same to a non car person and that is something that Porsche needs to fix. I see more Boxsters than I see new generation beetles. I would get a turbo 911 over a NSX very day of the week. (I ahve driven both) But that does not make the NSX a POS far from it. It is a great car as well. I suggest driving both and seeing what YOU like and what YOU are willing to live with.

yeah same here....996tt would be the winner hands down. I currently have 3 AC 911s and a 928 and I don't get people giving me any crap...at least not that I've noticed.

Get the nsx, its an awesome car in its own right. People may prefer porches or BMW m series or a myriad of other things, but the nsx is a pretty unique and rather awesome car. And hey, if you own it for a while and decide its not really for you, selling it and not loosing massive amounts of money should be pretty easy.

tuna55 wrote:

AaronBalto wrote: In reply to tuna55: Yes--Black '91 NSX Coupe. Stock wheels, a few reversible mods. Should be fun.

Yes it will. Start a thread once you get it. I want to hear about track days, it seems the perfect car for that.

No track days--I also have (by the way, have you noticed that I say "I also have" A LOT???) a Spec Racer Ford. That pretty much sucks up all of my track budget. In fact, I got an arrive and drive invoice today. Gulp. Engine, tires, prep, track support, etc, etc, etc. Oh well, who really wants to retire, anyway...

In reply to NOHOME:

The non Turbo Porsche have a IMS bearing that fails and costs a fortune, the Turbo is a different engine, the GT1, and has no IMS, it does not have this issue at all

Wow Sports Rambo.....I mean Spec Racer arrive and drive plus an NSX purchase.............clearly you to much free time and extra money, I recommend you buy a D-Sports Racer (now P2 car) as this will cure the problem. Ask me how I know.OK maybe your plan is better, by an NSX.

The "I also have" is rampant here; I race a Datsun 1200 but I also have a F500 but I also have a vintage motocross bike but I also have a Beta dual sport bike but I also have model trains but I also have fly fishing gear but I also hit the wife lotto......it's never ending big kid fun.

Tom

TL;DR so this might have already been brought up …

but the NSX is already started to rise in price …it should continue to do so …

vehicles like the Porsche Caymen aren't likely to (anytime soon) reach the point of price increase … so if you take care of the NSX, you should be able to get you $$ back out of it when you decide to move on

In reply to Tom1200: I am feeling really fortunate. I have a great life and while I would like to think that hard work had something to do with it, I know that I wouldn't be here without a lot of luck. I am very familiar with the "fun" of P2 racing (ask MotoMoron) and have nowhere near the engineering skills to make that happen. The SRF is right where I belong. My "also have" list is ridiculous, but my M3 is leaving the stable to make room--if you know anyone who wants a '99 M3 'vert with 62k miles for $10k, let me know.

In reply to AaronBalto: How about a turbo NC Miata?

In reply to Mr_Clutch42:

They don't really exist as a package deal. You can get the supercharger setup from FM though.

Aaron I too suspect hard work had something to do with it as well. Anyone who's going racing is having way more fun than 90% of the rest of the world.

As for a DSR, yes they do require a good bit of technical knowledge, I ended up having to read Carroll Smith's books in a hurry. I was also fortunate in having my friend who totally revamped the car being one of those machining, fabricating, engineering wizards and so I was privalidged to have my own race engineer. While I did set the class lap record with it the combination of time and money was a bridge to far for me.......in the 4 years I ran the car I had to give up the "I also haves". Thankfully I bailed at the perfect time, right before the Stohr chassis became prevelant. I did end up shaking down an early Stohr chassis for someone once as I was the only with experience fit in the car and they are a huge jump from the traditional one off cars that populated the class. The cars were above the skill level of 70% of amateur drivers before and with the newer full downforce cars it's more like 90%. The lap times now match Formula Atlantic.

Now as for a supercharged Miata over an NSX, having driven both on the road, the NSX is so much more comfortable.

Tom

In reply to turboswede: I was being sarcastic. The Miata may not be able to deliver the driving experience the NSX can to the OP. Plus, the OP could purchase a NC Miata, and buy a universal turbo setup.

I vote mkiv supra or nsx. Either will appreciate as you drive it and be rock solid. I would go supra because I find the nsx's performance under whelming but either is dripping with cool imho.

Or.....mr2 and 30k left for a dedicated track car

In reply to sesto elemento:

Unless you already have a dedicated track car...

So I got the NSX today. Befitting my new DD, I drove it home in absolutely torrential rain. And loved it. My initial observation is that daily driving an M3 is kind of a numbskull idea. This is one more notch along on the numbskull continuum, but not a radical departure from sanity. It handles city streets just as well as the M3. I'm a little uneasy about parking the NSX at my office. There is not much protection for the nose there--you touch the nose to a garage wall and can easily crease an aluminum front fender. Gotta watch that. But man, what a car. Really pleased to be able to drive this thing!

Great deal, they are really nice. The three people I know that own one don't hesitate driving their's to work or anywhere else.

  Tom

In reply to AaronBalto:

I can't believe we don't have any pictures yet. I believe we had the same issue when you got the 308. You know the rules around here, pictures are required within 10 hours of any new purchase

In reply to AaronBalto: What makes daily driving a M3 a numbskull idea (besides the high repair costs over a 328i), along with a NSX?

Congrats. Obviously I'm on the wrong career path. Yall hiring?

I know the purchase has already been made and such, but I think that an M-coupe could also be driven for net zero depreciation loss.

I have been looking at Caymans for the last few months, and the market is really sparse on 09-12 years, when the IMS is fixed, and IMO, when it had the best design language. Market for 08's - and ''13s + seem to be Very saturated by comparison. These may be something to watch in the future.

I'm also seeing crazy resale on high-end cars with manual transmissions. Later F-cars tend to command multi-$10k premiums over the F1 and other transmissions. I bet the latest 911 GT3s will follow the same pattern.

Mr_Clutch42 wrote: In reply to AaronBalto: What makes daily driving a M3 a numbskull idea (besides the high repair costs over a 328i), along with a NSX?

What makes these cars so stupid is that driving one to work is like using the Fifth Fleet to patrol a duck pond. Bear in mind that my commute is 3 miles through the city. The E36 M is a fantastic car, but it's crude (by comparison to "normal" cars) and way too stiff for city streets. By the way--these cars all have OEM suspension--no racetrack bits.

The funny thing about this is that the NSX is actually much more compliant and real-world drivable. Bear in mind that I drove it for all of one day, so time will have to tell. But so far it seems like an easy to car to live with.

Regarding pics, c'mon guys--it's a bone-stock black early-gen NSX! It looks exactly like all the others!